February 2017 Camaro Sales Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger) - Page 3

xray · 03-01-2017, 01:45 PM

I want to get a Gen 6 so bad, and I will. But I'm going to have to buy used because I just can't afford the car new. I want to get it new to support Chevy/GM for the amazing work they've done, and customize the car the way I want, but there's just no way I can afford it. We're talking a difference in price of $15k buying new vs used. It's my dream car, and the performance you get for the price really is amazing, but it's still too expensive for most people who buy Mustangs and Challengers. Not to mention, Camaro looks are very controversial whereas the other two are widely acclaimed. Also, Chevy has been doing very, very, very little advertising for the Camaro.

Kobra_Klutch · 03-01-2017, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Techn9cian805

No kidding... to make the fairly inexpensive 6th Gen 1LE about as good around the track as the $75K+ z/28 was a big slap in the face.

I realize that each new model should be an improvement over the previous version but this slap was from a 700lb Gorilla; heads fell off inadvertently.

But it's only money...so...

DrkPhx · 03-01-2017, 01:56 PM

Well that's not good for the Camaro. The Challenger on the other hand continues to amaze sales wise. There's a lot of talk here on how profitable the Camaro is, I would imagine the Challenger is probably the most profitable of the 3 pony cars considering how long it's been in production.

AlexM · 03-01-2017, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kobra_Klutch

I was being sarcastic

This was the argument many used on this forum when the initial sales were low; many believed the arrival of new models would increase sales.

OK

suzook · 03-01-2017, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexM

In all honesty, there are NO 20% off offers right now. When they had the offer running, the sales were much much better and that was Oct-Nov last year...

So people are just cheap fcks? I guess that's possible.

reeper · 03-01-2017, 02:15 PM

It's the unusable phone-dock charger

hawk02 · 03-01-2017, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010Camaro1ss

I think the lack of a usable backseat and price is killing sales.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

midlifecrisis2 · 03-01-2017, 02:54 PM

About a year and a half back I was going to trade my 2014 v6 Camaro for a used v8 challenger but before i did i went into the challenger forums ask all the basic questions like reliability performance opinions and more than one person told me keep the Camaro better car ..... so i gave up on the lust for a v8....I love my new 2017 v6 6th gen way lighter faster and better ....500 miles on her so far so good

SpeedIsLife · 03-01-2017, 03:02 PM

Which Challenger forum said that?

sprtplt · 03-01-2017, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

Well what's funny is GM gave the Camaro fans exactly what they wanted:

No one wanted:
a completely new car that is essentially indistinguishable from the prior generation;

no usable legroom backseat;

idiotic price increase.

Bassment · 03-01-2017, 03:04 PM

If they want more sales then this I just don't understand why they aren't marketing it at all. I get targeted Chevy ads ALL the time on my phone (I have adblock on my PC) and it's always either for a Cruze or for a Silverado. I get a lot of Cadillac and GMC ads too. Like I've seen hundreds of Chevy ads over the past year. None for the Camaro.

shaffe · 03-01-2017, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by maraging

Probably planning more track cars lol. Would be cool to have a better breakdown of all three, what trims are selling and fleet vs retail etc..

paging MEDISIN

He can normally chime in with those numbers when relates to Ford. I am sure if he creeps through this post he could post up for Chevy as well.

COmaro · 03-01-2017, 03:07 PM

1) The retro styling is a turn off to most 20-30 somethings.
2) The price is a turn off to most 20-30 somethings.
3) The lack of a usable trunk or backseat is a turn off to 20-30 somethings.
4) The crappy gunslit window visibility is a turn off to everyone.
5) The 40+ demographic is not where you want to target your sports cars if you want sales.

The 6th Gen Camaro was developed by people in their 40s and 50s, to appeal to people in their 40s-60s. Once that demographic has their *one* garage queen, they don't need another. Yes, the Challenger targets the exact same demographic, but they are doing it with a larger, more comfortable car that comes in at a lower price point. I am also curious how many Challenger GTs they are selling, since lack of FWD/AWD also hurts Camaro/Mustang in northern states, especially in winter.

Honda sold 27,000 Civics in February. That is the kind of car 20-30 somethings are buying, not the Camaro. When the Civic Hatch, Civic Si, and Civic Type R hit the showrooms, the number of 20-30 somethings who are buying pony cars will get even smaller. Meanwhile VW GTI/Golf R sales are climbing for the same reasons the Civic Type R has a long waiting list even though it is expected to cost nearly $40K.

On the plus side (for me), the V6 1LE may show up at $27K instead of the $29K I was expecting. Or maybe they will just kill it, since they seem to have only produced a handful so far.

rburke76 · 03-01-2017, 03:15 PM

I've mentioned this before in previous submission....No marketing! Can't they make a 30 sec or 1 minute commercial showing the Camaro driving on the beach, up a twisty mountain road, on California highway 101, pay a celebrity money (like rich Rawlins does with dodge) to do a cool commercial..this year in 2017 is the "50th" anniverasary of the Camaro..c'mon GM, wake up! Show a 1967 and a 2017 Camaro driving down the highway side by side going fast, looking cool....do something or there will be no 7th generation Camaro! heck, there won't even be a 2019 Camaro...man, let's go!

03-01-2017, 02:15 PM	#34
reeper Drives: 2010 HD D/A, 2015 Z06, 2016 2SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Central WI Posts: 503	It's the unusable phone-dock charger __________________ 2016 Hyper Blue A8 2SS GM Bodykit: Black MRR 017 wheels: Black OEM Blackout tail-lamps OEM SEMA Grille 35% window tint Black glow-tie BMR Suspension (Pretty much everything) ACS rear-deck spoiler Rotofab CAI Lolly-pop red rotors by Madison Powder Coating

03-01-2017, 02:54 PM	#36
midlifecrisis2 Drives: 1lt v6 Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Arizona Posts: 38	Don't fret the small stuff Camaro and GM still rules About a year and a half back I was going to trade my 2014 v6 Camaro for a used v8 challenger but before i did i went into the challenger forums ask all the basic questions like reliability performance opinions and more than one person told me keep the Camaro better car ..... so i gave up on the lust for a v8....I love my new 2017 v6 6th gen way lighter faster and better ....500 miles on her so far so good

03-01-2017, 03:15 PM	#42
rburke76 Drives: garnet red Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: northeast Posts: 169	not selling camaro I've mentioned this before in previous submission....No marketing! Can't they make a 30 sec or 1 minute commercial showing the Camaro driving on the beach, up a twisty mountain road, on California highway 101, pay a celebrity money (like rich Rawlins does with dodge) to do a cool commercial..this year in 2017 is the "50th" anniverasary of the Camaro..c'mon GM, wake up! Show a 1967 and a 2017 Camaro driving down the highway side by side going fast, looking cool....do something or there will be no 7th generation Camaro! heck, there won't even be a 2019 Camaro...man, let's go!

03-01-2017, 01:45 PM	#29
xray Drives: ZL1 (in my dreams) Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 95	I want to get a Gen 6 so bad, and I will. But I'm going to have to buy used because I just can't afford the car new. I want to get it new to support Chevy/GM for the amazing work they've done, and customize the car the way I want, but there's just no way I can afford it. We're talking a difference in price of $15k buying new vs used. It's my dream car, and the performance you get for the price really is amazing, but it's still too expensive for most people who buy Mustangs and Challengers. Not to mention, Camaro looks are very controversial whereas the other two are widely acclaimed. Also, Chevy has been doing very, very, very little advertising for the Camaro.

03-01-2017, 01:56 PM	#31
DrkPhx Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 / 2006 TB SS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MN Posts: 2,250	Well that's not good for the Camaro. The Challenger on the other hand continues to amaze sales wise. There's a lot of talk here on how profitable the Camaro is, I would imagine the Challenger is probably the most profitable of the 3 pony cars considering how long it's been in production.

03-01-2017, 03:02 PM	#37
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,242	Which Challenger forum said that?

03-01-2017, 03:04 PM	#39
Bassment Drives: 2016 Red Hot 2SS M6 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 468	If they want more sales then this I just don't understand why they aren't marketing it at all. I get targeted Chevy ads ALL the time on my phone (I have adblock on my PC) and it's always either for a Cruze or for a Silverado. I get a lot of Cadillac and GMC ads too. Like I've seen hundreds of Chevy ads over the past year. None for the Camaro.

03-01-2017, 03:07 PM	#41
COmaro Drives: Many Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Colorado Posts: 220	1) The retro styling is a turn off to most 20-30 somethings. 2) The price is a turn off to most 20-30 somethings. 3) The lack of a usable trunk or backseat is a turn off to 20-30 somethings. 4) The crappy gunslit window visibility is a turn off to everyone. 5) The 40+ demographic is not where you want to target your sports cars if you want sales. The 6th Gen Camaro was developed by people in their 40s and 50s, to appeal to people in their 40s-60s. Once that demographic has their one garage queen, they don't need another. Yes, the Challenger targets the exact same demographic, but they are doing it with a larger, more comfortable car that comes in at a lower price point. I am also curious how many Challenger GTs they are selling, since lack of FWD/AWD also hurts Camaro/Mustang in northern states, especially in winter. Honda sold 27,000 Civics in February. That is the kind of car 20-30 somethings are buying, not the Camaro. When the Civic Hatch, Civic Si, and Civic Type R hit the showrooms, the number of 20-30 somethings who are buying pony cars will get even smaller. Meanwhile VW GTI/Golf R sales are climbing for the same reasons the Civic Type R has a long waiting list even though it is expected to cost nearly $40K. On the plus side (for me), the V6 1LE may show up at $27K instead of the $29K I was expecting. Or maybe they will just kill it, since they seem to have only produced a handful so far.

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