ECS supercharger questions

Bowty2SS · 01-21-2018, 12:17 AM

I have posted on here a few times so forgive me if I ask too many questions lol. I have been looking into FI kits for quite some time and recently been looking at the ECS supercharger kit. I love the fact that the kit already comes with the race BOV and larger IC. My question is has anyone pushed this kit at all? All i could find on the forum is just baseline 8psi stock bolt on hp numbers. Has anyone made big power yet? Past 700whp? Any feedback would be amazing!

boostednut · 01-21-2018, 08:09 PM

Maybe someone will reply but I would think the biggest limiting factor is almost always going to be the belt setup. I didn't look through their installation instructions, and couldn't really tell. If the belt has a lot of wrap around the crank and the jack shaft pulley, then I would imagine it will be capable of plenty. Provided most of it is 3" intake, then your next limit is the head/cam and of course the 1500

Eyefixstuff · 01-21-2018, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by boostednut

Maybe someone will reply but I would think the biggest limiting factor is almost always going to be the belt setup. I didn't look through their installation instructions, and couldn't really tell. If the belt has a lot of wrap around the crank and the jack shaft pulley, then I would imagine it will be capable of plenty. Provided most of it is 3" intake, then your next limit is the head/cam and of course the 1500

Biggest limiting factor is the fuel system. Almost any of these supercharger and turbo kits are easily good for 575+ WHP. But that’s where it stops until the high pressure pump, injectors, and in tank pump are changed. Once that is done a tune and pulley change can increase the power pretty significantly.

boostednut · 01-21-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Eyefixstuff

Biggest limiting factor is the fuel system. Almost any of these supercharger and turbo kits are easily good for 575+ WHP. But that’s where it stops until the high pressure pump, injectors, and in tank pump are changed. Once that is done a tune and pulley change can increase the power pretty significantly.

I think anyone who's been on the forum understands that and was speaking directly to the kit limitations.

Bowty2SS · 01-21-2018, 10:05 PM

I am looking at a perfect scenario where fuel isn’t an issue. What is PROVEN power that has actually been tested and pushed to its limits with this kit.

Epx998 · 01-21-2018, 10:16 PM

As you've probably read - you need to state what your end goal is. Then you can figure out the best option. BOV, IC is nice and all, but are you going for sound/aesthetics or RWHP?

red_johnny · 01-22-2018, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Epx998

As you've probably read - you need to state what your end goal is. Then you can figure out the best option. BOV, IC is nice and all, but are you going for sound/aesthetics or RWHP?

He did state, he wants to see where he is limited at and what the max power is without changing anything other than the pulleys. He wants info from someone who has done it or experience with this system. I wish I could help but I am still learning all of this as well. I am currently looking over my options as I would like to add a supercharger in the next 2 years. I just need to figure out when is going to be the best time to do it and if I am going to have a shop do it for me. My goal is over 600 RWHP/RWTQ.

Bowty2SS · 01-22-2018, 12:28 AM

End game whp would be 750 plus. I am ok with a quieter SC even tho I would prefer louder. I definitely want the race (loud) BOV sound. I just feel this package is really well built and a very good price point compared to procharger for what you get. I can even get the black hardware for under 6k, along with the race BOV and larger IC. Just want to make sure the kit is capable with proof of someone that has done it before I pull the trigger. There are gobs of examples of c7 ECS kits making my desired power with just the SC and alky. Maybe ECS will chime in....

DiGiam · 01-22-2018, 12:12 PM

I can only speak from the 5th gen Camaro and some of the corvettes with the same head unit and they made well into the 700's and a few tickled 800. I don't know why this car cant do the same as long as the fuel system and pistons are addressed.

gippy87 · 01-23-2018, 01:07 AM

i hit 600 with my ecs kit on stock fuel. my friend hit 700 with the addition of meth if that helps answer your question

Swagger · 01-24-2018, 08:14 AM

I loved my ECS kit on my Vette not sure on the Camaro how well they go, I went Procharger. However I can say I made 675whp on a stock cube/forged LS1 with 317 heads. That Novi 1500 is a stout lil blower for sure. Thats 15psi and near maxed out IMO

aka Reckless · 01-24-2018, 11:37 AM

Here you go! 8 psi on my automatic 2016 SS. Also had Stage 2 cam, long tubes without CATs and 93 octane.

The "before" graph was with cam and long tubes on E85. So I picked up 21hp per pound of boost with my setup.

You might also note the blower pull was made in 5th gear and lifted at 6000 rpm while still climbing.

I already have the pulleys to max out the blower but haven't installed them yet. Need to add methanol at the same time. Just need to find the time to make it happen. Then I will have numbers with maxed out 1500 on 93 and E85 with methanol injection.

JANNETTYRACING · 01-24-2018, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowty2SS

I am looking at a perfect scenario where fuel isn’t an issue. What is PROVEN power that has actually been tested and pushed to its limits with this kit.

The supercharger will not be the limiter here ECS is well capable of over 700 RWHP.

The fuel system on the LT-1 cars will limit you to 570-590 RWHP no matter what supercharger or turbo system you use.

wnta1ss · 01-24-2018, 05:36 PM

Since the OP's question is about pushing it, what the 1500SL can flow is not the only factor. Thus far it's unknown how hard the jackshaft setup on the 6G Camaro kit is capable of spinning the blower effectively. The Stingray kit has a different drive system, and therefore the claims for Stingray hp might not fully translate to the 6G Camaro kit.

01-21-2018, 12:17 AM	#1
Bowty2SS Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 31	ECS supercharger questions I have posted on here a few times so forgive me if I ask too many questions lol. I have been looking into FI kits for quite some time and recently been looking at the ECS supercharger kit. I love the fact that the kit already comes with the race BOV and larger IC. My question is has anyone pushed this kit at all? All i could find on the forum is just baseline 8psi stock bolt on hp numbers. Has anyone made big power yet? Past 700whp? Any feedback would be amazing!

01-22-2018, 12:12 PM	#9
DiGiam Drives: 2016 NFG SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Valdosta Posts: 405	I can only speak from the 5th gen Camaro and some of the corvettes with the same head unit and they made well into the 700's and a few tickled 800. I don't know why this car cant do the same as long as the fuel system and pistons are addressed. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8. Pray ported intake manifold, Rotofab dry cai, kooks 2" catted longtubes, E85,

01-24-2018, 11:37 AM	#12
aka Reckless Drives: 2016 2SS Camaro Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 541	Here you go! 8 psi on my automatic 2016 SS. Also had Stage 2 cam, long tubes without CATs and 93 octane. The "before" graph was with cam and long tubes on E85. So I picked up 21hp per pound of boost with my setup. You might also note the blower pull was made in 5th gear and lifted at 6000 rpm while still climbing. I already have the pulleys to max out the blower but haven't installed them yet. Need to add methanol at the same time. Just need to find the time to make it happen. Then I will have numbers with maxed out 1500 on 93 and E85 with methanol injection. Attached Images

01-21-2018, 08:09 PM	#2
boostednut Drives: Nothing cool atm Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: California Posts: 138	Maybe someone will reply but I would think the biggest limiting factor is almost always going to be the belt setup. I didn't look through their installation instructions, and couldn't really tell. If the belt has a lot of wrap around the crank and the jack shaft pulley, then I would imagine it will be capable of plenty. Provided most of it is 3" intake, then your next limit is the head/cam and of course the 1500

01-21-2018, 10:05 PM	#5
Bowty2SS Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 31	I am looking at a perfect scenario where fuel isn’t an issue. What is PROVEN power that has actually been tested and pushed to its limits with this kit.

01-21-2018, 10:16 PM	#6
Epx998 \|Engineer\| Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 402	As you've probably read - you need to state what your end goal is. Then you can figure out the best option. BOV, IC is nice and all, but are you going for sound/aesthetics or RWHP?

01-22-2018, 12:28 AM	#8
Bowty2SS Drives: 2017 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Cookeville, TN Posts: 31	End game whp would be 750 plus. I am ok with a quieter SC even tho I would prefer louder. I definitely want the race (loud) BOV sound. I just feel this package is really well built and a very good price point compared to procharger for what you get. I can even get the black hardware for under 6k, along with the race BOV and larger IC. Just want to make sure the kit is capable with proof of someone that has done it before I pull the trigger. There are gobs of examples of c7 ECS kits making my desired power with just the SC and alky. Maybe ECS will chime in....

01-23-2018, 01:07 AM	#10
gippy87 Drives: 2016 2ss Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: RI Posts: 179	i hit 600 with my ecs kit on stock fuel. my friend hit 700 with the addition of meth if that helps answer your question

01-24-2018, 08:14 AM	#11
Swagger DaWolfOfAllStreets Drives: 17 C Coupe, 17 1LE, 16 Scion iA Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: NJ Posts: 205	I loved my ECS kit on my Vette not sure on the Camaro how well they go, I went Procharger. However I can say I made 675whp on a stock cube/forged LS1 with 317 heads. That Novi 1500 is a stout lil blower for sure. Thats 15psi and near maxed out IMO

01-24-2018, 05:36 PM	#14
wnta1ss Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NH Posts: 1,693	Since the OP's question is about pushing it, what the 1500SL can flow is not the only factor. Thus far it's unknown how hard the jackshaft setup on the 6G Camaro kit is capable of spinning the blower effectively. The Stingray kit has a different drive system, and therefore the claims for Stingray hp might not fully translate to the 6G Camaro kit.

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