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08-10-2016, 10:35 PM | #521 |
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I guess you could paint me into the picture of a non-brand loyal buyer who is deciding between the Camaro, Mustang GT and to a lesser extent the Challenger SP. Biggest thing for me right now is the cost. Yes, I can afford all 3, but I would rather not spend my max budget (2ss w/ Mag Ride and NPP) vs the low end of my budget the GT Prem PP.
I get all the differences between the two above and yes the Camaro offers more but that also comes with a cost. The biggest thing I am debating is just how much more is the Camaro, optioned the way I want, worth it over the GT? |
08-10-2016, 10:55 PM | #522 | |
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I was in the same boat as you are. I test drove all 3 before making my decision. I drove the Camaro last. It was exactly what I was looking for. I great all around performance car. Where I am from the GT is only a couple grand cheaper and the SP is roughly the same price as the Camaro. It was a no brainer for me. Everyone has different wants and needs though. Ultimately it is your decision. |
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08-11-2016, 07:05 AM | #523 | |
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So, you have to ask yourself if you will really appreciate what the Camaro has to offer at its price point. If you enthusiastic enough, you will value tech like MRC and electronically controlled exhaust values that come with quad tipped NPP. An enthusiast prefers the rev-matching capability of the Tremec M6 transmission or the quicker shifting and the better gear ratios you get out of the A8 transmission. Some enthusiasts prefer how the direct injected LT1 in SS delivers its power spread more evenly across the rpm range vs how the coyote prefers to rev and make more power up top. Then we start to explore the chassis differences, high use of aluminum, associated weight savings and the increase in performance and handling you get as a result. The list for an enthusiast can go on and on... Ideally I would want a new stingray corvette but it is over my budget and I needed the emergency back seats for the kids, however when I consider that my Camaro gets me about 95% of the performance and overall driving experience as the vette it makes the Camaro a steal. If I compare it to that BMW M4, I think the Camaro is a steal. Value is relative to what you are comparing it to. If I compare the Camaro to a mustang is seems expensive. But if I compare to other cars with its performance, magride, NPP, etc. it seems cheap. Best of luck...
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08-11-2016, 07:53 AM | #524 |
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So somehow, in the context of a thread about sales, we focus on SS and how it competes against a BMW. SS isn't really where the sales are hurting, it is with the LT trim.
But lets keep pretending the Camaro SS will ever be thought of as on par with the BMW M4. |
08-11-2016, 08:30 AM | #525 | |
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I stumbled across this excellent post from member Number 3 last December in a thread about trunk space.
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The biggest? That GM took too much of the practicality out of the car. I think there is a LOT of truth to that because the LT buyers buy more on practicality than the SS buyers do and LT sales are down a lot. SS buyers usually look for performance data first and practicality second and LT buyers are often more the opposite. Everyone knows a RWD two door sports car is far from practical but when the manufacture reduces the practicality even more it has to hurt sales. Reduce visibility (that was already challenged), reduce interior space, reduce trunk capacity (with an even smaller opening), and raise prices? What do you think will happen? Sure, the car will be lighter. But at what cost? For a big part of the people looking to buy (or having bought) a new sports coupe and comparison shopped the Challenger, the Mustang, and the new 6G Camaro, the Camaro has the least amount of practicality of the three and yet costs more than the other two. That certainly cannot help sales, especially in the LT models.
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08-11-2016, 08:38 AM | #526 | |
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Hey Bob I hear you got the Mega Bucks account. Yeah Dan I finally made it I'm gonna go buy a Chevy!
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The bottom line is the Chevy Camaro SS can get you the driving experience for $40k but if you need to stroke the ego that is gonna cost another $40k for the BMW.
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08-11-2016, 04:40 PM | #528 | |
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08-11-2016, 07:32 PM | #530 | |
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Here is a pretty honest video from a guy that chose a new mustang over the 6th gen and why. Shocker, it didn't really come down to price.
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08-11-2016, 07:50 PM | #531 |
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LOL! I Watch his YouTube Channel and he actually gives the Camaro a good review! Like he said for him it came down to how it looked. Same here... I prefer the looks of the Gen 6 Camaro over the new Mustang. Now let the hate flow for me. I'll be bashed because the new Camaro looks like the old one (only IMHO better) LOL!
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He has always been a Mustang person, dreamed of having one since he was a kid. He thinks the Camaro is the better driving car in every way. The Camaro costs a little more - possibly impacting sales. Recommends the Camaro for those that don't have that "in your blood Mustang love". So, pretty much saying what has been said for like 500 pages in this thread. The Camaro is the better car and costs more. Yes, I think everyone here knows at this point. |
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