11-16-2013, 12:27 AM | #799 |
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LS1 were underrated. They often dynoed 310-330rwhp/330-340 rwtq. Those V6 are down a solid 50rwhp and even more on torque. Not in the same league. They were all 350+hp cars (depending if they had the LS6 intake manifold). Same engine rated 345 in the Corvette...
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11-16-2013, 01:23 AM | #800 |
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As I mentioned previously, I test drove a Regal Turbo in 2011 (I think)... I loved it. Looking at the current Regal Turbo specs, I'm seeing 259hp@3,000rpms and 295ft lb tq @ 2-3000 rpms... Pretty impressive.
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11-16-2013, 09:53 PM | #801 |
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I just bought a Malibu LTZ with the 2.0 Turbo, 259 hp, 295 tq. Traded Impala 3.9 liter. Two years ago I wouldn't even test drive a regal because it was 4 cylinder, thinking it could even stay close to matching my Impala or any V6. Imagine my surprise when I actually drove the Malibu! When that turbo spools up, that car MOVES! Combination of power and efficiency; car has 1200 miles on it this evening and 250 mile trip to San Antonio and back averaged 29.6 mpg at 70 mph. My point is--this type engine in a lighter G6 Camaro would give performance equal to my current 2LT and could possibly even be better. Personally, I'm old school and am a died in the wool believer that performance has to sound like a V8, but the reality is that it can come in a differently configured package.
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11-19-2013, 10:48 AM | #802 |
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Now hearing no 2.0T for 6th gen according to what Al Oppenheiser wants.
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I wonder if Chevy is looking to offer a larger turbo 4 cylinder instead of the 2.0? I don't know what they would offer to compete with the Ford 2.3 engine. I think Chevy will still offer a V6, but unless their new "LGX" V6 can put out 300ish TQ it will never be able to compete in 0 - 60 and quarter mile runs with the 2.3 turbo from Ford. The turbo's TQ will peak much sooner and be greater. I do believe the V6 could have the advantage at the top end over the 2.3 turbo b/c it would likely have a 30 - 40 HP advantage, but it would be playing catch up from a dig every time. From a roll the two would be pretty competetive.
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11-19-2013, 11:46 AM | #804 |
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Wouldn't you need to run premium in a turbo vehicle??
Found a few threads elsewhere owners mixing it up between 87,89 and 91 and on 87 the engine runs like shit. So where would the benefit be of owning a turbo 4 cylinder when you have the same gas tank size and run the same gas? I'd be interested in seeing MPG in a camaro with this engine. Without actual numbers of it in a camaro body the argument of how much it gets in another vehicle is pointless. I'd never buy one because there is nothing like a V8, but that's my opinion
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11-19-2013, 11:59 AM | #805 |
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I don't care one way or the other, but if this is true, it is VERY surprising. Definitely seems to go against the grain of what GM has been doing lately... i.e., putting 4-cylinders in darn near every new car... even the CTS.
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It'll come down to how good the new LGX is.
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11-19-2013, 07:39 PM | #807 |
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No, it won't. It will simply come down to CAFE. The V6 won't get the Camaro where it MUST be. Has little to do with what Al wants or what Al says to a bunch of enthusiasts.
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That's almost as bad as everyone with with a base v6 mustang putting cobra badges and kits on it.
Ricer motor in a MUSCLE car. Get outa here with that crap
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11-19-2013, 08:33 PM | #809 | |
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Of course, that doesn't rule out a turbo 4-banger being in the lineup. I also don't buy the CAFE argument. Sales will be too low to make a major difference.
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Honda makes a pretty nice 60 degree V6 with cylinder deactivation...so what if this new LGX has that tech? In that case, GM has argued already with the new "ecotech" V8s that the reason it did not reduce engine size is because they performed better when in eco (4 cylinder) mode. Assuming this, GM could end up going with a slightly larger displacement V6 than the current LFX 3.6 which means we could see peak HP and TQ well above the LFX 323/278, but yet it could return mid 30s on the highway when in "eco" mode. If they were smart, they'd disable the eco mode when you throw the car in sport mode or something like that so you have 100% power available all the time without hesitation. That said, no high revving V6 will match the low end torque of a turbo 4 cylinder, but if they can get the output to 340+ HP they should have a good 30 - 40 HP advantage on top to brag about. I'm no expert on modern engine tech, but the LFX is already running with all the modern goodies that the new V8s have, so aside from adding cylinder deactivation to the engine I don't know what else they could go that would add considerably more power or efficiency. The cam-less, sparkless engines are years out still. I also realize doing cylinder deactivation in a 60 degree engine versus a 90 degree like the V8s is a tough order....but as I said above Honda is doing it pretty successfully.
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11-20-2013, 12:36 AM | #811 |
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Isn't it the new mustang offering a turboed four?
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Yes read my post number 804.
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