GM halted turbo 4 production

Carolina Chuck · 01-13-2016, 07:01 PM

Dealer called and said GM halted all turbo4 production. No reason given. No start up date given. That scared me considering I went though the turbo4 issues with my 2013 ATS lease. I thought the engine would have had all the bugs worked out by now and was the only reason I originally ordered that build. However I decided to not take any chances and upgraded to V6. Order is still expected in March perhaps sooner according to dealer. They even gave me a discount because I had the option of walking away.

Boilermaker128 · 01-13-2016, 08:06 PM

interesting...the LNF is a work of art not sure how they messed it u so badly with the ats and now camaro...

DenverTaco07 · 01-13-2016, 08:09 PM

Dealer said it.....

Grain of salt

laborsmith · 01-13-2016, 08:13 PM

Sometimes the dealer may be correct.

There are several threads about the delay in production, including one from ofer who ordered his four banger through Rodgers Chevrolet.

Laborsmith

GretchenGotGrowl · 01-13-2016, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boilermaker128

interesting...the LNF is a work of art not sure how they messed it u so badly with the ats and now camaro...

LTG.

motorhead · 01-13-2016, 08:25 PM

Was it because they misplaced the other four pistons? Kidding. What problems did it have in the caddy?
I was eager to see how this thing performed.

Boilermaker128 · 01-13-2016, 08:40 PM

Isn't the ltg an upgraded version of the LNF? If not maybe they should've went that way.

DenverTaco07 · 01-13-2016, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boilermaker128

Isn't the ltg an upgraded version of the LNF? If not maybe they should've went that way.

They did go LTG...

LTG IS 3rd Gen ecotec series
LNF is second gen

LovePhenom · 01-13-2016, 11:30 PM

There's a management & union conflict here. I'll look into it.

bigdonut · 01-14-2016, 12:32 AM

This means no 2016 Camaro with the 2.0T I'm guessing? Looks like they're going to have to wait until 2017 to release the Camaro with the turbo. I was looking forward to buying a turbo Camaro for the 2017 year anyway...

doc7000 · 01-14-2016, 01:26 AM

This engine is already in production for the CTS and ATS and will soon be in the CT6 Cadillac, not sure if this is legit or what.... maybe with V-6 and V-8 expected early demand they made the choice to prioritize those over 2.0T until they can get enough of them out.

jimmypop13 · 01-14-2016, 04:57 AM

All I know is the wait will be well worth it. I drove an LNF with a 5-speed for 8 years. That car was so fun! The LTG will be even better!

laynlo15 · 01-14-2016, 05:37 AM

I've had no problems with my 13 Malibu turbo, its been flawless. Runs great, great mileage. I think it will be really popular in the Camaro, wish it had a few more ponies, maybe 325 would be a good round number or at least the same as the mustang ecoboost.. I'd probably wait for that one, but its basically has the same as my Malibu but about 350 lbs lighter which is good.

Number 3 · 01-14-2016, 06:31 AM

There was a reflash of the 2.0T in the ATS. Due to a detonation issue potentially leading to engine failure. This was not a major issue. It's been flawless in our ATS.

May or may not be due to an engine problem, but unless they recalibrated it for more HP, I doubt it's an actual engine problem. Otherwise they would halt production of ATS, CTS, CT6 and the launch of the new Malibu.

But if as LovePhenom suggests, all models with the 2.0T would be impacted.

Could be as suggested demand is so high (no evidence of that) that they are just going to keep building the more profitable combinations and not bring in a even lower priced model yet.

01-13-2016, 07:01 PM	#1
Carolina Chuck CarolinaChuck Drives: 2016 Camaro Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 26	GM halted turbo 4 production Dealer called and said GM halted all turbo4 production. No reason given. No start up date given. That scared me considering I went though the turbo4 issues with my 2013 ATS lease. I thought the engine would have had all the bugs worked out by now and was the only reason I originally ordered that build. However I decided to not take any chances and upgraded to V6. Order is still expected in March perhaps sooner according to dealer. They even gave me a discount because I had the option of walking away.

01-13-2016, 08:09 PM	#3
DenverTaco07 Drives: 2017 SS 1LE, 2017 Volt, 2013 Pilot Join Date: May 2014 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,274	Dealer said it..... Grain of salt __________________ 2017 SS 1LE \| HBM \| Vortech V3-Si supercharger (620RWHP and 575ft lbs) \| PDR \| Black Bowties \| Illuminated Front Black Bowtie \| Illuminated Door Sills \| Smoked Tails \| vented seats mod

01-13-2016, 11:30 PM	#9
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01-14-2016, 04:57 AM	#12
jimmypop13 Drives: 2016 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 1,127	All I know is the wait will be well worth it. I drove an LNF with a 5-speed for 8 years. That car was so fun! The LTG will be even better! __________________ 2016 camaro 2SS hyper blue/Kalahari, A8, MRC, NPP, sunroof, SW headers through axleback, Circle D 3600rpm TC, Pray ported IM/TB, E85 Sold: 2002 Z28, NBM, M6, 460rwhp, 2009 HHR SS RIP : 2002 WS6 Black, A4, 355rwhp

01-14-2016, 05:37 AM	#13
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,860	I've had no problems with my 13 Malibu turbo, its been flawless. Runs great, great mileage. I think it will be really popular in the Camaro, wish it had a few more ponies, maybe 325 would be a good round number or at least the same as the mustang ecoboost.. I'd probably wait for that one, but its basically has the same as my Malibu but about 350 lbs lighter which is good. __________________ 2022 Lt1 6.2 A10, Maggie 2300, THPSI Port Inj/10 rib, Rotofab, E, Nickey, SCOL, Griptech, RC Bandits, Hoosiers/MT 9.80@142.96 1.44 60ft, 6.34@112 707/669 RWHP/TRQ. 16SS Maggie 2650 9.41@147 1.35 60ft, 5.99@119. 16 C7 A8 10.90@128 Bolt on stuff

01-13-2016, 08:06 PM	#2
Boilermaker128 Drives: 2010 CobaltSSTC Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 515	interesting...the LNF is a work of art not sure how they messed it u so badly with the ats and now camaro...

01-13-2016, 08:13 PM	#4
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	Sometimes the dealer may be correct. There are several threads about the delay in production, including one from ofer who ordered his four banger through Rodgers Chevrolet. Laborsmith

01-13-2016, 08:25 PM	#6
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	Was it because they misplaced the other four pistons? Kidding. What problems did it have in the caddy? I was eager to see how this thing performed.

01-13-2016, 08:40 PM	#7
Boilermaker128 Drives: 2010 CobaltSSTC Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 515	Isn't the ltg an upgraded version of the LNF? If not maybe they should've went that way.

01-14-2016, 12:32 AM	#10
bigdonut Drives: Nothing Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 148	This means no 2016 Camaro with the 2.0T I'm guessing? Looks like they're going to have to wait until 2017 to release the Camaro with the turbo. I was looking forward to buying a turbo Camaro for the 2017 year anyway...

01-14-2016, 01:26 AM	#11
doc7000 Drives: 2004 Pontiac Grand Prix Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Lomita,CA Posts: 806	This engine is already in production for the CTS and ATS and will soon be in the CT6 Cadillac, not sure if this is legit or what.... maybe with V-6 and V-8 expected early demand they made the choice to prioritize those over 2.0T until they can get enough of them out.

01-14-2016, 06:31 AM	#14
Number 3 Hail to the King baby! Drives: '19 XT4 2.0T & '22 VW Atlas 2.0T Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 12,173 View My Garage	There was a reflash of the 2.0T in the ATS. Due to a detonation issue potentially leading to engine failure. This was not a major issue. It's been flawless in our ATS. May or may not be due to an engine problem, but unless they recalibrated it for more HP, I doubt it's an actual engine problem. Otherwise they would halt production of ATS, CTS, CT6 and the launch of the new Malibu. But if as LovePhenom suggests, all models with the 2.0T would be impacted. Could be as suggested demand is so high (no evidence of that) that they are just going to keep building the more profitable combinations and not bring in a even lower priced model yet. __________________ "Speed, it seems to me, provides the one genuinely modern pleasure." - Aldous Huxley

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