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Old 07-03-2012, 05:31 PM   #29
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PS - I'd have a Forged 427 in my car right now. I also would like to see a factory paint upgrade.
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Old 07-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #30
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It ain't over yet, PQ, and 800's aren't that much more of a reach . . . the V12 biturbo AMG Mercedes puts out 738 ft-lbs right now - and it's only that low because it's electronically limited to that number.

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Old 07-03-2012, 05:47 PM   #31
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It ain't over yet, PQ, and 800's aren't that much more of a reach . . . the V12 biturbo AMG Mercedes puts out 738 ft-lbs right now - and it's only that low because it's electronically limited to that number.

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Fair. I guess I'm talking about the lower end cars like Mustang, Camaro, etc............... Basically the affordable ones to more people.

To be honest I feel a little uncomfortable already. LOL
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:20 PM   #32
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Fair. I guess I'm talking about the lower end cars like Mustang, Camaro, etc............... Basically the affordable ones to more people.

To be honest I feel a little uncomfortable already. LOL
I agree PQ, so being that this is probably the last generation to have crazy HP, would it not be sweet for the 2014 ZL1 to have a LS9
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:20 PM   #33
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im glad some of you guys are not gm decision makers........... hopefullly
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:23 PM   #34
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I agree PQ, so being that this is probably the last generation to have crazy HP, would it not be sweet for the 2014 ZL1 to have a LS9
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Old 07-04-2012, 12:24 AM   #35
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GM is making cars that the majority of the people want. People like the OP and myself have become the minority of Camaro owners. 5th gen owners and new Camaro crowd are a bunch of parking lot, dyno queen enthusiasts. Look at all the high HP cars on this site. Most have never seen a drag strip. Also look at the gaudy accessories and so called "mods" that people do to these things. I don't know what happened, maybe it was transformers, but the Camaro is no longer the "poor man's Corvette". It's a cruise night darling. GM has found a cash cow by catering to these people and I don't blame them. It sucks but if you want the General's best you need to step up to the Corvette. I was never a "Vette" guy but it's the only choice if you want a good platform and an LS engine.
Respectfully disagree, and the 1 LE Camaro is proof (cant wait to see how it performs) also I think folks tend to forget that GM started from scratch and only had one chasis to choose from (Zeta) and look at what they accomplish in just 3 model years. I Honestly think 1LE is going to surprise many people.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:23 AM   #36
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i think we all want an ss 427.


where gm is lacking is offering a drag car. the zl1 and 1le are all well and good but we don't have a drag race purpose car, like the gt500.

an ss 427 or 427 z\28 would be fantastic.
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:59 AM   #37
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i think we all want an ss 427.


where gm is lacking is offering a drag car. the zl1 and 1le are all well and good but we don't have a drag race purpose car, like the gt500.

an ss 427 or 427 z\28 would be fantastic.
They do make a drag car, the copo Camaro... And placing the words Z/28 in the same context as a dragstrip car is a crime against humanity lol....
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:31 PM   #38
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They do make a drag car, the copo Camaro... And placing the words Z/28 in the same context as a dragstrip car is a crime against humanity lol....
i mean i cheap street legal car. not a 100k race car.

they already screwed up the zl1 name. why draw the line at the z28?
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:41 PM   #39
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i mean i cheap street legal car. not a 100k race car.

they already screwed up the zl1 name. why draw the line at the z28?
Someone has a crystal ball. Excellent points all around.
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:03 PM   #40
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As far as sales with the Camaro I bet sales will drop off in the next year and I'm talking Camaros outside of the ZL1 (not every one can afford one) The hopeful Z28 will be the only thing to save the Camaro sales for the 5th gen IMO.

There is a ton of used 5th gens to be had right now and that alone is hindering new sales. The 5th gen IMO is on its way out.. GM should do a Retro Chevelle next..
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Old 07-04-2012, 11:22 PM   #41
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Why...?

6th gen is coming mid-decade. The market for RWD muscle cars just isn't there anymore. Camaro is more than enough, adding the 2014 SS sedan is just icing on the cake.
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Old 07-05-2012, 03:44 AM   #42
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