2017 Camaro purchase?

jp23rockstar · 05-04-2020, 07:45 AM

Here's some background on the vehicle I have currently and what cars I'm looking at. I currently have a 2008 Buick Lucerne CXL V6. It has 111k miles and there's some minor issues with it, paint fade from the sun, needs a new thermostat sensor/thermostat, possibly the tire sensors need replaced. So it's certainly up there in terms of miles. However, I've been looking at a 2013 BMW 335 series xdrive for 108k miles for just under 15k fully loaded, all options. That car is negotiable.

On the other hand I did come across this nice Camaro. https://www.bmwofwarwick.com/invento...ff1r75h0199713

I did get to check it out in person, everything seemed to be in good shape. I haven't test drove it yet, but I have driven the same exact vehicle only in convertible form as a rental for about a week. This would most likely be my only car. With that said, snow tires are a must up in New England. The only options are auto which is great for daily driving and sunroof. The things that I need to check on if it's a non smoker car (deal breaker, the BMW was not, very sensitive to smoke). Also, the stitching on the passenger's seat at the top where you move the seat forward is coming undone a little bit (fit and finish related). What would a good price be? $23,500 and fix that issue? Would I enjoy this car be more enjoyable than the 335i xdrive sedan? I think so. Thoughts please.

JT58 · 05-04-2020, 08:37 AM

BMW's are nice driver cars....but they are a maintenance nightmare unless you get a maintenance package- which are pretty costly too. Or unless you can do a lot of the work yourself and get the parts from aftermarket sources. An example is brakes- pads and rotors will set you back 2-3K. My friend has a BMW 135 IS and wow is maintenance expensive from the BMW dealer.

I'd opt for the Camaro but beware of the A8 shuddering issues if you buy the automatic.

Malbjey · 05-04-2020, 04:41 PM

The Carfax says the car was a rental. I'd stay away from it, especially since it's had 4 different owners. I just don't trust sports cars that were formerly rentals.

LT4Greg · 05-04-2020, 05:03 PM

Very clean 2017 1SS. Not a bad price but a rental with 4 owners makes me skeptical. Probably no issues and you would still have the 5 year/60,000 mile drivetrain warranty in effect. With the car being a rental, regular maintenance was probably done at the scheduled intervals so go ahead and do a test drive and see how it drives and runs!

LT4Greg · 05-04-2020, 05:08 PM

Just wondering about the wheels though as they don’t look like the silver 6th gen versions(too dark) and thinking they might be off a 5th gen or maybe have been painted or something else.

trohde78 · 05-04-2020, 05:13 PM

Just my .02 cents on the BMW. I had a '09 335i, and a '15 435i xdrive. I absolutely loved the '09, but found the '15 with the xdrive to be quite boring to drive, as you couldn't really get it to do anything fun.

slimjim2525 · 05-04-2020, 07:39 PM

Rental, run away.

MackSteelPrivateEye · 05-04-2020, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jp23rockstar

Here's some background on the vehicle I have currently and what cars I'm looking at. I currently have a 2008 Buick Lucerne CXL V6. It has 111k miles and there's some minor issues with it, paint fade from the sun, needs a new thermostat sensor/thermostat, possibly the tire sensors need replaced. So it's certainly up there in terms of miles. However, I've been looking at a 2013 BMW 335 series xdrive for 108k miles for just under 15k fully loaded, all options. That car is negotiable.

On the other hand I did come across this nice Camaro. https://www.bmwofwarwick.com/invento...ff1r75h0199713

I did get to check it out in person, everything seemed to be in good shape. I haven't test drove it yet, but I have driven the same exact vehicle only in convertible form as a rental for about a week. This would most likely be my only car. With that said, snow tires are a must up in New England. The only options are auto which is great for daily driving and sunroof. The things that I need to check on if it's a non smoker car (deal breaker, the BMW was not, very sensitive to smoke). Also, the stitching on the passenger's seat at the top where you move the seat forward is coming undone a little bit (fit and finish related). What would a good price be? $23,500 and fix that issue? Would I enjoy this car be more enjoyable than the 335i xdrive sedan? I think so. Thoughts please.

BMWs cause problems.

redcoats1976 · 05-04-2020, 08:24 PM

look for another camaro,BMWs devour money.

Yellow Beast · 05-04-2020, 09:16 PM

Buy a Camaro. I own a Mercedes too and most of the issues are electrical. I repair my own vehicles. If you were to take a Bmw to a shop for any type of repair it'll cost you an arm and a leg. Forget the dealer, they will charge you $600 just to change the spark plugs. Imagine an electrical issue. Once a Beamer hits 100,000 miles the problems keep coming, no matter how good the car was taken care of. German cars are nice to have but be prepared to dish out a lot of money. Just my 2 cents from personal experience.

jp23rockstar · 05-05-2020, 10:37 AM

I'm going Friday to take the Camaro for a test drive and review the exterior and interior. The carfax is wrong in regards to the mileage it has 35,802. I found out that it's a non smoker car. I'm certain to bring up the stitching on the passenger seat is coming undone which I believe is a defect for the 2016 and 2017 Camaro models. Also, I noticed looking back on the pictures I took that the paint in the front is weak and to see if they fix that. Anyone know if the Camaro suffers from bad paint quality in particular the front bumper section right under the Chevy emblem? That's where I see a couple of marks that paint is chipping.

vtirocz · 05-05-2020, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Just wondering about the wheels though as they don’t look like the silver 6th gen versions(too dark) and thinking they might be off a 5th gen or maybe have been painted or something else.

Those are the base 6th gen SS wheels ('16-18), but they do like they've been painted a darker color.

7speed · 05-05-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jp23rockstar

I'm going Friday to take the Camaro for a test drive and review the exterior and interior. The carfax is wrong in regards to the mileage it has 35,802. I found out that it's a non smoker car. I'm certain to bring up the stitching on the passenger seat is coming undone which I believe is a defect for the 2016 and 2017 Camaro models. Also, I noticed looking back on the pictures I took that the paint in the front is weak and to see if they fix that. Anyone know if the Camaro suffers from bad paint quality in particular the front bumper section right under the Chevy emblem? That's where I see a couple of marks that paint is chipping.

Based on where you live and I think you said will be your only car. I probably would go with the BMW since it is all wheel drive, just check all the records. Or for the price of that Camaro you probably could get a newer WRX.

oftenimitated · 05-05-2020, 02:09 PM

I would stay away from BMW with over 100k miles, unless 1 owner with all maint records and even then I would be hesitant

I had a 2014 320 xdrive w/40k miles and was not impressed. Im not in a big city either and trying to find someone to work on BMW is harder, as most dealers don't have their specific computers because they cost so much and they dont see enough of them

When I first bought the BMW it was under warranty, and that was great because they would give a new loaner when you took it in and nothing out of pocket.

05-04-2020, 07:45 AM	#1
jp23rockstar Drives: None Join Date: May 2012 Location: RI Posts: 255	2017 Camaro purchase? Here's some background on the vehicle I have currently and what cars I'm looking at. I currently have a 2008 Buick Lucerne CXL V6. It has 111k miles and there's some minor issues with it, paint fade from the sun, needs a new thermostat sensor/thermostat, possibly the tire sensors need replaced. So it's certainly up there in terms of miles. However, I've been looking at a 2013 BMW 335 series xdrive for 108k miles for just under 15k fully loaded, all options. That car is negotiable. On the other hand I did come across this nice Camaro. https://www.bmwofwarwick.com/invento...ff1r75h0199713 I did get to check it out in person, everything seemed to be in good shape. I haven't test drove it yet, but I have driven the same exact vehicle only in convertible form as a rental for about a week. This would most likely be my only car. With that said, snow tires are a must up in New England. The only options are auto which is great for daily driving and sunroof. The things that I need to check on if it's a non smoker car (deal breaker, the BMW was not, very sensitive to smoke). Also, the stitching on the passenger's seat at the top where you move the seat forward is coming undone a little bit (fit and finish related). What would a good price be? $23,500 and fix that issue? Would I enjoy this car be more enjoyable than the 335i xdrive sedan? I think so. Thoughts please.

05-04-2020, 08:37 AM	#2
JT58 Drives: Former 2016 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 760	BMW's are nice driver cars....but they are a maintenance nightmare unless you get a maintenance package- which are pretty costly too. Or unless you can do a lot of the work yourself and get the parts from aftermarket sources. An example is brakes- pads and rotors will set you back 2-3K. My friend has a BMW 135 IS and wow is maintenance expensive from the BMW dealer. I'd opt for the Camaro but beware of the A8 shuddering issues if you buy the automatic. __________________ 2006 C6 Corvette Manual, 2019 Silverado, 1997 Jeep Wrangler

05-04-2020, 05:03 PM	#4
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Very clean 2017 1SS. Not a bad price but a rental with 4 owners makes me skeptical. Probably no issues and you would still have the 5 year/60,000 mile drivetrain warranty in effect. With the car being a rental, regular maintenance was probably done at the scheduled intervals so go ahead and do a test drive and see how it drives and runs! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

05-04-2020, 05:08 PM	#5
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,813	Just wondering about the wheels though as they don’t look like the silver 6th gen versions(too dark) and thinking they might be off a 5th gen or maybe have been painted or something else. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

05-04-2020, 07:39 PM	#7
slimjim2525 Drives: 2019 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: Connecticut Posts: 135	Rental, run away. __________________ 2019 Camaro 2SS, Shadow Grey

05-04-2020, 04:41 PM	#3
Malbjey Drives: 2022 Kia Stinger GT2 Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 289	The Carfax says the car was a rental. I'd stay away from it, especially since it's had 4 different owners. I just don't trust sports cars that were formerly rentals.

05-04-2020, 05:13 PM	#6
trohde78 Drives: '17 Red Hot 2SS 6MT Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Chicago Suburbs Posts: 346	Just my .02 cents on the BMW. I had a '09 335i, and a '15 435i xdrive. I absolutely loved the '09, but found the '15 with the xdrive to be quite boring to drive, as you couldn't really get it to do anything fun.

05-04-2020, 08:24 PM	#9
redcoats1976 Drives: LT W/2LT,blue metallic Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: central florida Posts: 4,915	look for another camaro,BMWs devour money.

05-04-2020, 09:16 PM	#10
Yellow Beast TD Drives: 2017 2SS, 2014 Mercedes C300 Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Connecticut Posts: 248	Buy a Camaro. I own a Mercedes too and most of the issues are electrical. I repair my own vehicles. If you were to take a Bmw to a shop for any type of repair it'll cost you an arm and a leg. Forget the dealer, they will charge you $600 just to change the spark plugs. Imagine an electrical issue. Once a Beamer hits 100,000 miles the problems keep coming, no matter how good the car was taken care of. German cars are nice to have but be prepared to dish out a lot of money. Just my 2 cents from personal experience.

05-05-2020, 10:37 AM	#11
jp23rockstar Drives: None Join Date: May 2012 Location: RI Posts: 255	I'm going Friday to take the Camaro for a test drive and review the exterior and interior. The carfax is wrong in regards to the mileage it has 35,802. I found out that it's a non smoker car. I'm certain to bring up the stitching on the passenger seat is coming undone which I believe is a defect for the 2016 and 2017 Camaro models. Also, I noticed looking back on the pictures I took that the paint in the front is weak and to see if they fix that. Anyone know if the Camaro suffers from bad paint quality in particular the front bumper section right under the Chevy emblem? That's where I see a couple of marks that paint is chipping.

05-05-2020, 02:09 PM	#14
oftenimitated Drives: 2004 Honda Civic+2011 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: South Vienna OH Posts: 396 View My Garage	I would stay away from BMW with over 100k miles, unless 1 owner with all maint records and even then I would be hesitant I had a 2014 320 xdrive w/40k miles and was not impressed. Im not in a big city either and trying to find someone to work on BMW is harder, as most dealers don't have their specific computers because they cost so much and they dont see enough of them When I first bought the BMW it was under warranty, and that was great because they would give a new loaner when you took it in and nothing out of pocket.

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