[GTIanZ28]

Originally Posted by 90503

I'd be impressed with a 87 years-in-the-future 2103 tranny....lol

It'll be a CVT mated to human powered belt driven sprockets. All occupants will power it through a complex multiplicative differential. Of course this will be assisted by the solar powered 5hp electric motor.

By law no vehicle will be operated with less than three operators and no speed shall exceed 35 mph in consideration of all children and wildlife.

[ILBMF]

Originally Posted by BahamaTodd

He was asking about the V6.

Ford went with the TR3160 to save weight. Unfortunately they are also right at the upper limit of what that transmission can handle. Doesn't sound like its going to be the best platform to add any power to the GT-350.

Tremec rates their transmissions way low on torque capacity. I have an '06 GT with a TR3650 rated at 360 ft lbs capacity. My engine produces over 540 ft lbs to the wheels and I frequently hit the strip with NT05R drag radials with no problems. Been doing it for years and that's a 10 spline input shaft which is the weak link on the tranny.

[hognutz]

yeah time will tell on the TR-3160. right now every internet expert is trying to use the data to downplay it.

I like real world data. the MT-82 seems to fail more often IMO than tremec's with similar torque capacity. IT's torque rating does not seem to minimize its random failure issues.

doesn't the ats-v use that box as well?? one of my friends dirt napped his second MT-82 after a cobra jet swap he is as conflicted as a kardashian stepfather over what to put back in it. I wish there was more data out there on the TR-3160 because his power is right in line with the GT350 and if that box is reliable that is proabably the way to go.

[ILBMF]

I've heard of some syncronizer issues with the MT-82, but other than the first model year they came in the Mustang, some updates have seemed to remedy other issues. I believe they have a 23 spline input shaft. From what I read the TR3160 has been used in some delivery truck applications, maybe different gearing. If they can handle the GT350's 8250 rpm redline that's saying something. I hear they allow very fast shifting.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by ILBMF

I've heard of some syncronizer issues with the MT-82, but other than the first model year they came in the Mustang, some updates have seemed to remedy other issues.

Unfortunately, that couldn't be further from the truth. They really didn't do much over the years to them, and they still are Chinese made garbage. I made the mistake of buying a Mustang with one, what a nightmare. The auto one I have now is much better, but I miss shifting and will be going bye bye for a '17 Camaro. My buddy has a '15 GT at Ford as we speak, with a bad syncro in it for the second time.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by ILBMF

I've heard of some syncronizer issues with the MT-82, but other than the first model year they came in the Mustang, some updates have seemed to remedy other issues. I believe they have a 23 spline input shaft. From what I read the TR3160 has been used in some delivery truck applications, maybe different gearing. If they can handle the GT350's 8250 rpm redline that's saying something. I hear they allow very fast shifting.

4 gear twice on my buddies and his a 13. now his car is about 450 to the wheels but to just destroy gears like that at his power level seems odd. if you really read about that transmission there are so many failures it is kind of crazy. the second transmission was rebuilt to handle the power and still failed as lets face it you still have to get gears and there is not a big aftermarket for those so they just cryo treated factory gears.

now some people get away with it there are way more MT-82 failure than TR-6060 failures.

the 3160 in this case for the GT350 has been updated to fords specs for the GT350. There is not enough real world data yet to see but it did not take long for people to start scraping MT-82's when they hit the ground so next couple months will probably tell the story.

[ILBMF]

I know guys who are thrashing the MT82 transmissions into low 10 second, high 9 second times without issues. I also see guys with some issues, mostly syncro or noise. The 2 Gt's I did test drives in (both '16s') shifted cleanly at nearly 7000 rpm's and were quiet, very well mannered gear boxes. Way more quiet and easy to get into any gear than my 3650 Tremec in my '06 which even though it isn't quiet and can be hard to get into gear when sitting still, does shift cleanly even at 7500 rpm's. As far as updates to the MT82, I definitely read there have been improvements, but that's only what I have read. I can say with 1st hand experience the two '16's I drove recently...I was impressed with the transmission especially with 3.31 rear end gearing.

I will say, I would prefer the TR6060 or the T56 Magnum even more than that. I have driven both and they are great gear boxes with well proven track records. I plan on a Magnum XL in my '06 when I get around to it or mine breaks.

[RLHMARINES]

Originally Posted by BahamaTodd

Good website for GM engine and transmission info:
http://www.gmpowertrain.com/VehicleE...nProducts.aspx

2016 powertrain guide:
http://gmpowertrain.com/product_guid...e_20151030.pdf

I wonder if we have an unannounced model in the Camaro lineup for '16 listed in the powertrain list..........

[BahamaTodd]

Several mistakes in that document. They also do not have the manual listed for the SS sedan.

[hognutz]

Originally Posted by ILBMF

I know guys who are thrashing the MT82 transmissions into low 10 second, high 9 second times without issues. I also see guys with some issues, mostly syncro or noise. The 2 Gt's I did test drives in (both '16s') shifted cleanly at nearly 7000 rpm's and were quiet, very well mannered gear boxes. Way more quiet and easy to get into any gear than my 3650 Tremec in my '06 which even though it isn't quiet and can be hard to get into gear when sitting still, does shift cleanly even at 7500 rpm's. As far as updates to the MT82, I definitely read there have been improvements, but that's only what I have read. I can say with 1st hand experience the two '16's I drove recently...I was impressed with the transmission especially with 3.31 rear end gearing.

I will say, I would prefer the TR6060 or the T56 Magnum even more than that. I have driven both and they are great gear boxes with well proven track records. I plan on a Magnum XL in my '06 when I get around to it or mine breaks.

yeah grab the MT-82 its awesome. his shifted cleanly at 8000rpm FYI.

like right now if you get passed the fact there is not a 4th gear it is an amazing piece of machinery.

I love when you break it down and find the plastic bushing on the shift forks as well as the shift stop. I mean that is high end design. all these years of people using bronze what were they thinking. That is why I am glad they build stuff in china now a days so they can add in great feats of engineering like that.

[SS 1LE]

Originally Posted by hognutz

yeah grab the MT-82 its awesome. his shifted cleanly at 8000rpm FYI.

like right now if you get passed the fact there is not a 4th gear it is an amazing piece of machinery.

I love when you break it down and find the plastic bushing on the shift forks as well as the shift stop. I mean that is high end design. all these years of people using bronze what were they thinking. That is why I am glad they build stuff in china now a days so they can add in great feats of engineering like that.

Ah, the sarcasm...