[Zezima]

Originally Posted by IOMike

This post right here explains a lot about you.

How sad of a world we live in where people think this way.


Put it this way, if you need a loan for all of a 60k car, you should not be buying a 60k car.

Well I can afford a 60k car, with cash, but most people who buy 60k cars take out a loan, common knowledge, you're probably just a blithering idiot

[KINGZ28]

Ford what a joke Aston Martin wanna be. Plus this car has more curves than an egg what a vag on wheels.

[titanfan]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Swap the Mustang T4 and V6, it's already been known the T4 Camaro and the V6 Mustangs are their specific base engines.

Yeah, but I still think the comparisons will be made between similar cars regardless of how the manufacturer elected to tier the cars in their lineups.

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by IOMike

Stingray has done 11.4 at 124 on stock tires, no drag radials. 350, maybe 400lbs more means the gen6 is going to see 11s at or very near 120mph. For every hero 12.2 dodge run, there will be a hero 11.9 run in a gen6.

The torque curve is no joke on the LT-1. They focused most of the power gains on torque over top end power, just like they did in the 392. A approx 450-500lb lighter gen6 will be faster stock and the distance will only grow with mods due to the light weight.

392 is a fast car and the gen6 doesn't make it slow, but it will be faster stock vs stock.

If Mustang needs to rely on the GT350, which starts at 53k, to keep up with a 35k SS...well you know how that's going to work out, it won't be pretty. I assume they will be adding DI to the 5.0 to keep up.

You have got to be kidding me, . When motor trend dyno tested the 14 Stingray it barely had over 400-rwhp no way that is going to hit 120-mph unless this new Camaro comes in at 3200-lbs. Remember most bolt on LS3 cars are well over 400-rwhp and struggle to hit 113-114 mph. The new ScatPacks are all 430+rwhp and event higher torque ratings. So is Dodge under-rating or is Chevy over rating?

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p.../photo_01.html

[Denis]

Originally Posted by WishIhad4WD

I was never interested in the Mustang until the 2015 came out. The only resemblance to the Fusion is in the grill, which Ford obviously stole from Aston Martin anyway.

Ford owns Aston Martin

Along with every single car in the Ford lineup. They literally all have the EXACT same grill shape....

[Jeb114]

I do not think Ford or Dodge need to do anything. They got to be laughing with that anemic reveal. They have colors, stripes extreme HP engines, Performance Packages. A new 600HP V6 for next year in the GT40. We have a new Blue, and tiny weeny Badges, and a new emblem!! Oh did I forget ford has the GT350R. Dodge Has the Hellcat. Did I miss anything GM took a Butter Knife, to a Gun Fight.

[Overflow]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I do not think Ford or Dodge need to do anything. They got to be laughing with that anemic reveal. They have colors, stripes extreme HP engines, Performance Packages. A new 600HP V6 for next year in the GT40. We have a new Blue, and tiny weeny Badges, and a new emblem!! Oh did I forget ford has the GT350R. Dodge Has the Hellcat. Did I miss anything GM took a Butter Knife, to a Gun Fight.

GM just revealed the car two days ago... Patience. None of the big three revealed a high horsepower model right off the bat. Give it time and Chevrolet will have competition for the Ford and Dodge high horsepower models.

[shaffe]

Originally Posted by Front Runner

Sorry guys, looks are very opinionated and subjective. So there are no right or wrong answers on either side.

I don't like the look of the new Mustang. I've said it before. Nothing new there.

The Gen6 Camaro has a better looking interior and exterior than the new Mustang. I'll take a Gen6 over a Mustang any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

and nothing wrong that, Looks is 100% subjective. Comparing 6th gen to the S550, I think the S550 looks better. Its a pure opinion thing and as long as people don't try to throw it around as fact its all good.

Originally Posted by 87GNX

The 16 looks good but it still looks like a 15 too much. Interior looks more modern some of the dash looks kinda plain but it is what it is...

I think the interior on the 6th gen is a clear win in the looks category for me. Then again it would have been hard to not improve over the 5th gen interior

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by Zezima

Well I can afford a 60k car, with cash, but most people who buy 60k cars take out a loan, common knowledge, you're probably just a blithering idiot

Well if you say so, it must be true. I'm pretty sure you're around 16 years old, give or take a few. It's quite obvious.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by Jeb114

I do not think Ford or Dodge need to do anything. They got to be laughing with that anemic reveal. They have colors, stripes extreme HP engines, Performance Packages. A new 600HP V6 for next year in the GT40. We have a new Blue, and tiny weeny Badges, and a new emblem!! Oh did I forget ford has the GT350R. Dodge Has the Hellcat. Did I miss anything GM took a Butter Knife, to a Gun Fight.

Most, including the non blind over at the Mustang forum, disagree with you.

[mvfjet]

Ford might give the mustang a HP bump but with that ticking time bomb transmission the mt-82 ford can't bump it up to much. I just think it's funny how nervous the mustang fan boi's are. Its like 1999 all over again. Ls1 Camaro's killing 16 and 32 valve 4.6's. I don't care how much high rpm HP the 5.0 makes, I want low rpm torque from a high cube low tech Chevy small block.

[delliott00]

I will be interested to see if the weight savings claims bear out in real life, or if they disappoint us like Ford did to the Mustang enthusiasts.

But based on what GM has said publicly, and what they are telling members of the press, I actually think GM may be *sandbagging* a bit on the weight savings and that it will be MORE than 200lbs across the board.

Comments like this one from Autoblog "Though the new car is said to be more than 200 pounds lighter, that's a blanket number that applies to the entire Camaro range. The V6 model is actually about 300 pounds lighter, and that difference is apparent in our back-to-back drives. "

Article is here: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/05/17/2...e-first-drive/

If thats true, and its looking increasingly harder to discount, then we are probably looking at a 34xx V6 and maybe even a sub 3700 1SS. That is going to be a killer combo.

The Camaro 6th gen weight claim seems to be the big debate amongst a couple of my Mustang pals and on their forums. One of my track buddies has a new GTPP and always talked about the "extra 300lb fat chick in the passenger seat" in my 1LE to get under my skin. But when the news broke that the new stang was heavier, and when the C&D comparison came out and their "weight as tested" showed my 1LE was 3884 and his GTPP was 3810...well he stopped bringing it up. Maybe because I weigh 150 and he weighs about 240, which makes my car lighter :-)

Would love to see a 1SS with mag ride, recaros, and 6sp in the upper 3600s and a 2SS at 3700.

-Dave
'14 1LE

[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by Denis

Ford owns Aston Martin

Along with every single car in the Ford lineup. They literally all have the EXACT same grill shape....

Ford does NOT own Aston.

[KINGZ28]

They had a percentage and now have sold it and I think they are being sued by Aston for there front ends.