Previous ZL1 vs New SS - Page 4

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 07:51 AM

Super charger?

LesBaer · 07-28-2016, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by raptor5244

And for a lot less $$ than buying another car.

LOL...and a lot less insurance. I still have everything covered by way of adding riders to my current policy, but nothing I've done has any impact on the overall rates I pay. Of course it's not exactly the same car as the ZL1, but once I add forged pistons ($1200) it'll be pretty damn close.

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 07:56 AM

lol. I love the look of the Gen 5 ZL1. So Beastly looking.

LesBaer · 07-28-2016, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Glowtieboi

Super charger?

Yes...see my sig. Add 15% to the rear wheel numbers for power at the crank to get the manufacturer's advertised HP and torque.

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 08:01 AM

Very interesting. I'm not a person who's interested in modding. I'm just a "as is" kind of person. I thought about a SC but decided against it.

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 08:13 AM

What do you think of my situation? What would you do?

LesBaer · 07-28-2016, 08:20 AM

Get the ZL1 or look for a used Z06. Currently brand new 1LZ Z06's are selling for $72k at Kerbeck....12% off msrp, which is a great deal.

Richard0nee · 07-28-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bosse'sBoss

Here I share some performance numbers that I got from my old MT magazines:

0-60 MPH
5th.gen ZL1 3.8 secs.
6th.gen SS 4.0
5th.gen 1LE 4.4
Winner: 5th. gen ZL1

1/4 Mile
5th.gen ZL1 12.1 sec @ 117.4 mph
6th.gen SS 12.4 sec @ 114.6 mph
5th.gen 1LE 12.9 sec @ 110.5 mph
Winner: 5th. gen ZL1

Braking 60-0
5th.gen ZL1 108 ft.
6th.gen SS 104 ft.
5th.gen 1LE 99 ft.
Winner: 5th. gen Camaro SS 1LE

Lateral Acceleration:
5th.gen ZL1 1.02 g.
6th.gen SS 1.00 g.
5th.gen 1LE .98 g.
Winner: 5th. gen Camaro ZL1

Figure Eight:
5th.gen ZL1 23.9 sec @ 0.83g
6th.gen SS 24.1 sec @ 0.85g
5th.gen 1LE 24.5 sec @ 0.87
Winner: 5th. gen Camaro ZL1

1st. Place: '12-'15 Camaro ZL1

2nd.Place: '16 Camaro SS
3rd. Place: '13-'15 Camaro SS 1LE

The top performer was the 5th. gen ZL1 (that is a bargain now comparing a use one VS a new 6th. gen Camaro SS).
But also shows how great is the stock '16 SS that beat fairly easy the prior 1LE SS with track dedicated suspension. Great job GM

. If you have either of those Camaros, just enjoy it, you have a great car.

Nice numbers. Love the ZL1 but with the interior of the new Gen and styling, I'll take an SS over the 5th Gen ZL1.

Love them both but with the reduced weight and new interior of the 6th Gen, I can't own a 5th Gen over a 6th Gen

Can't go wrong with either or!

LesBaer · 07-28-2016, 08:47 AM

Sorry, my bad for not reading this correctly - I thought you were looking at the new ZL1. If you're open to modding the car, the gen5 ZL1 is on a much more mature platform. Right now you can easily take that car and destroy any gen6 numbers - even those of a modded gen6 like mine. The one downside is the interior. The car looked like a dinosaur brand new...it won't age well. It's really your call. If I was going to mod and didn't care about the inside, I'd go gen5 ZL1 all the way.

detltu · 07-28-2016, 09:07 AM

I made the same choice myself I think it depends on what you want to use it for. Both cars can do anything you want.
Assuming you don't have strong opinions on 5th vs 6th gen styling and there isn't a significant cost difference between the two:
Daily driver- 6th gen SS
Track/ HPDE car- ZL1
Autocross - 6th Gen SS
Drag race- ZL1 barely

Good news is you can do everything in both cars. I think the ZL1 is a little more unique, but it's not like you see tons of 6th gen SS yet either though. 5th gen Z has already taken a good chunk of the depreciation hit as well assuming you are looking at a used one. If you will do a lot of driving in it, the 6th gen SS will be easier on the wallet. Less gas, cheaper tires.

Good luck.

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 09:20 AM

Love the insight. I already have a GEn 6 SS. The interior is what made me go 6 over 5. But seeing the Gen 5 Z for the price made me wonder, debate and fantasize. I use my 16 SS as my weekend, BS day, out with my wife car. The Z if I got it would purely he my car, muck around car. I want it for the body style, supercharger and horsepower. The interior sucks and is extremely dated but it's tolerable, given I have a DD and the 16 SS.

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 09:22 AM

As far as the new ZL1 is concerned, that's an option as well. I would trade in my SS for that! The money I would use for the Gen 5 Z, put towards the new Z. Thing about that is, why do all that for ONE car when I can keep what I have and get the gen 5 Z. I love my SS to death. Amazing car in every way. Also the 13 Z is is 44k out the door, so looking into a 72k Vette isn't an option for me at this time ��

Glowtieboi · 07-28-2016, 09:29 AM

Another thing that attracts me is the exclusivity. I've never seen a ZL1 on the road before. Car shows but outside of that, never. I've seen about 3 16 SS so far in the last 7 months.

raptor5244 · 07-28-2016, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Glowtieboi

As far as the new ZL1 is concerned, that's an option as well. I would trade in my SS for that! The money I would use for the Gen 5 Z, put towards the new Z. Thing about that is, why do all that for ONE car when I can keep what I have and get the gen 5 Z. I love my SS to death. Amazing car in every way. Also the 13 Z is is 44k out the door, so looking into a 72k Vette isn't an option for me at this time ��

I would take the 16 SS and trade up to a new ZL1 and then go buy a cheap used pickup to handle your day to day stuff when you can't drive the ZL1.

07-28-2016, 08:20 AM	#49
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	Get the ZL1 or look for a used Z06. Currently brand new 1LZ Z06's are selling for $72k at Kerbeck....12% off msrp, which is a great deal. __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

07-28-2016, 08:47 AM	#51
LesBaer FMPG Drives: 2016 2SS Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: CT Posts: 1,888	Sorry, my bad for not reading this correctly - I thought you were looking at the new ZL1. If you're open to modding the car, the gen5 ZL1 is on a much more mature platform. Right now you can easily take that car and destroy any gen6 numbers - even those of a modded gen6 like mine. The one downside is the interior. The car looked like a dinosaur brand new...it won't age well. It's really your call. If I was going to mod and didn't care about the inside, I'd go gen5 ZL1 all the way. __________________ Ordered 3/8/16- NFG/Ceramic White, M6, MRC, NPP, 6 pots, blk blade, no sunroof, blk splitter, blk bow ties, dark tails, nav. ARH 1 7/8" ceramic coated full sys w/NPP; Maggie 9.2psi (85mm); Jannetty rough idle cam(TSP), tune and LT4 fuel system; Forgeline VX1 Black PVD (20x10,11); R88R 315's; ALPriority; BMR rear arms, bushings, DS loop; RF intake (red); nGauge 93 octane: 712rwhp, 654rwtq / E85 (E66 mix): 734rwhp, 674rwtq (SuperFlow Dyno)

07-28-2016, 09:07 AM	#52
detltu Drives: 1992 Z28 1LE; 2015 Zl1 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Madisonville, LA Posts: 866 View My Garage	I made the same choice myself I think it depends on what you want to use it for. Both cars can do anything you want. Assuming you don't have strong opinions on 5th vs 6th gen styling and there isn't a significant cost difference between the two: Daily driver- 6th gen SS Track/ HPDE car- ZL1 Autocross - 6th Gen SS Drag race- ZL1 barely Good news is you can do everything in both cars. I think the ZL1 is a little more unique, but it's not like you see tons of 6th gen SS yet either though. 5th gen Z has already taken a good chunk of the depreciation hit as well assuming you are looking at a used one. If you will do a lot of driving in it, the 6th gen SS will be easier on the wallet. Less gas, cheaper tires. Good luck. __________________ 1989 Camaro RS convertible- Sold 1999 Camaro SS - Stolen 2x 1991 Camaro Z28- 1991 Camaro Z28 1LE- 1992 Camaro Z28 1LE- 25th anniversary 2015 Camaro ZL1

07-28-2016, 07:51 AM	#43
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	Super charger?

07-28-2016, 07:56 AM	#45
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	lol. I love the look of the Gen 5 ZL1. So Beastly looking.

07-28-2016, 08:01 AM	#47
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	Very interesting. I'm not a person who's interested in modding. I'm just a "as is" kind of person. I thought about a SC but decided against it.

07-28-2016, 08:13 AM	#48
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	What do you think of my situation? What would you do?

07-28-2016, 09:20 AM	#53
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	Love the insight. I already have a GEn 6 SS. The interior is what made me go 6 over 5. But seeing the Gen 5 Z for the price made me wonder, debate and fantasize. I use my 16 SS as my weekend, BS day, out with my wife car. The Z if I got it would purely he my car, muck around car. I want it for the body style, supercharger and horsepower. The interior sucks and is extremely dated but it's tolerable, given I have a DD and the 16 SS.

07-28-2016, 09:22 AM	#54
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	As far as the new ZL1 is concerned, that's an option as well. I would trade in my SS for that! The money I would use for the Gen 5 Z, put towards the new Z. Thing about that is, why do all that for ONE car when I can keep what I have and get the gen 5 Z. I love my SS to death. Amazing car in every way. Also the 13 Z is is 44k out the door, so looking into a 72k Vette isn't an option for me at this time ��

07-28-2016, 09:29 AM	#55
Glowtieboi Drives: Mosaic black 2SS Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 38	Another thing that attracts me is the exclusivity. I've never seen a ZL1 on the road before. Car shows but outside of that, never. I've seen about 3 16 SS so far in the last 7 months.

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