[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

Okay...

I owned 3 coyote mustang including a 3.55 auto s550 GT and the performance isn't even close to the gen 6 SS (straight line/handling). Even AED tuned/ bolt-ons GT wasn't as quick as my stock SS. Not necessarily talking drag racing (too many factors) but real world performance on the street. The S550 GT is a little slower than the S197 GT, stock.

I will give you that the mustang is currently better suited for tuning, drag racing and FI.

Okay...not sure what you're saying has anything at all to do with my statement.

[DGthe3]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

Tune only auto GT has gone bottom 12s at 390ishwhp. How a new GT with a better/faster shifting auto will go 1/2 second slower with same or more whp and better powerband is beyond me.

I would be highly skeptical of a 'tune only' Mustang doing that.

If it only happens once, its not terribly reliable. If a dozen different cars, scattered all over the place manage to do it ... then maybe there is something to it. Still no guarantee though. But when all you've got to go on is the word of a single guy making an implausible claim ... trust it about as much as you would the National Inquirer

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

Okay...not sure what you're saying has anything at all to do with my statement.

Just stating facts and keeping things real.
You're a mustang guy trolling a camaro forum boasting how fast you think the mustang is.
You stated an example of an S550 auto GT with 3.55 gear glory run.

I happen to used to own a S550 auto GT with 3.55 and replied to your post. It was a high 12 sec car.
I ran a best of 12.9@111 with a 2.0 60ft in +200DA. All other runs were slower that night.

My stock 14 auto GT was actually quicker with a best of 12.8@113 2.2 60ft in similar air, same track.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by DGthe3

I would be highly skeptical of a 'tune only' Mustang doing that.

If it only happens once, its not terribly reliable. If a dozen different cars, scattered all over the place manage to do it ... then maybe there is something to it. Still no guarantee though. But when all you've got to go on is the word of a single guy making an implausible claim ... trust it about as much as you would the National Inquirer

Turn a blind eye and everything is automatically fake and lies. Must be lies that coyotes can go 10s NA as well.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

Just stating facts and keeping things real.
You're a mustang guy trolling a camaro forum boasting how fast you think the mustang is.
You stated an example of an S550 auto GT with 3.55 gear glory run.

I happen to used to own a S550 auto GT with 3.55 and replied to your post. It was a high 12 sec car.
I ran a best of 12.9@111 with a 2.0 60ft in +200DA. All other runs were slower that night.

My stock 14 auto GT was actually quicker with a best of 12.8@113 2.2 60ft in similar air, same track.

You still jumped into a topic with info that had nothing to do with what I originally stated. You just got offended because a mustang guy said something and you felt like arguing camaro vs mustang. Difference between you and I is I accept the conditions in which I ran weren't ideal. I ran 13.0 with a 2.2 60ft. People in other parts of the country have stickier tracks in which they can muster 1.8 60ft times which results in 5-6 tenths off. Some get to run in tracks where DA is negative, or they don't have to sit in the staging lanes for 25-30 minutes before they get to run, some people have base models where I have a premium which is heavier, some guys weight 160lbs vs 200+. It all adds up to a different ET. But you ran 12.9 and that's all the car has, got it. Thanks for your input.

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

You still jumped into a topic with info that had nothing to do with what I originally stated. You just got offended because a mustang guy said something and you felt like arguing camaro vs mustang. Difference between you and I is I accept the conditions in which I ran weren't ideal. I ran 13.0 with a 2.2 60ft. People in other parts of the country have stickier tracks in which they can muster 1.8 60ft times which results in 5-6 tenths off. Some get to run in tracks where DA is negative, or they don't have to sit in the staging lanes for 25-30 minutes before they get to run, some people have base models where I have a premium which is heavier, some guys weight 160lbs vs 200+. It all adds up to a different ET. But you ran 12.9 and that's all the car has, got it. Thanks for your input.

I get all that whatever and that is why don't like to use 1/4 mile runs as the end all be all of how quick a car is as there are so many factors.
It's much more valid if both cars run at the same night and track, you then have driver skill as the biggest factor.

Here is the post I replied to initially:

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re View Post
S550s go deep into the 12s. Its not a 13 sec car. but it is equipped with crappy tires. People have gone as fast as 12.4 with 3.55 geared autos, stock

I did not reply to your other troll posts (nor did I read many of them)but only the one above.
I will translate my replies to you as I added a bit more than needed because I was a mustang guy.

Just because handful of stock S550's that have gone deep into the 12's (we all know your're implying low 12's) does not make it a low 12sec car. If you average the majority of stock GT runs, you will find it is a high 12 sec car.
I cut a 1.8 60ft and ran a 12.5@114 in good air with my tuned bolt-on 2012 GT. Your logic a stock s550 GT with 3.55's would have been faster that night.


Not really sure why you are posting on this thread and I am replying to you as this is a potential comparison thread between the 2018 GT and 6gen SS.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by L99BEN

I get all that whatever and that is why don't like to use 1/4 mile runs as the end all be all of how quick a car is as there are so many factors.
It's much more valid if both cars run at the same night and track, you then have driver skill as the biggest factor.

Here is the post I replied to initially:



I did not reply to your other troll posts (nor did I read many of them)but only the one above.
I will translate my replies to you as I added a bit more than needed because I was a mustang guy.

Just because handful of stock S550's that have gone deep into the 12's (we all know your're implying low 12's) does not make it a low 12sec car. If you average the majority of stock GT runs, you will find it is a high 12 sec car.
I cut a 1.8 60ft and ran a 12.5@114 in good air with my tuned bolt-on 2012 GT. Your logic a stock s550 GT with 3.55's would have been faster that night.


Not really sure why you are posting on this thread and I am replying to you as this is a potential comparison thread between the 2018 GT and 6gen SS.

Ok trap and good 60 ft but it seems like your shifts are on the slow side, hence the below average ET.

[drew peacock]

i test drove a 2017 ss auto last week.
1 million times better than my 2016 mustang gt...wow such an awesome car.
shame i haven't got 50k spare just now..

[L99BEN]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

i test drove a 2017 ss auto last week.
1 million times better than my 2016 mustang gt...wow such an awesome car.
shame i haven't got 50k spare just now..

Yep the grass is greener; however, if straight line performance is the priority and you're planning on big power like via supercharging, stick with the mustang.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

i test drove a 2017 ss auto last week.
1 million times better than my 2016 mustang gt...wow such an awesome car.
shame i haven't got 50k spare just now..

Oh no not this clown.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by newmoon

I fully expect the GT with the A10 to run right with the A8 SS or possibly better at the strip and on the street. If it's capable of 3.9 second 0-60, the new A10 transmission is negating any torque advantage the SS holds. Now after the 60-mph mark this motor will really pour it on.

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I agree. I think the two will be damn near tied in acceleration. I think the advantage that Camaro may hold on to is overall handling and driving dynamics, even with the upgrades to the Mustang suspension but I expect that gap to close also.

But I see Camaro getting the 10 speed also for model year 2019. It won't make much of a difference over the 8 speed, but it will help somewhat. Maybe squeeze out another 10th or two in the 1/4 mile and 0-60MPH.

Nope. See, I take it that Ford is the one talking all this 0-60 in 4 seconds nonsense. And I doubt it will actually do that. More than likely it'll have some weak-ass axles, garbage tires, and won't be able to launch for crap. I think it'll be slightly faster, like maybe a 12.5-12.7. But that's about it. And just because they're getting the A10 doesn't mean Ford isn't gonna screw with it and make it crappy. It is awesome in the ZL1. But I bet Ford will get their hands on it and put weaker crap in it and it won't be as good. But that is just my opinion.

Originally Posted by Chadicus

A 12.5 would be a huge win for Mustang fans. The 13.0 that they are running right now is embarrassing

Well I guess if still losing can be considered a "win"...

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

Tune only auto GT has gone bottom 12s at 390ishwhp. How a new GT with a better/faster shifting auto will go 1/2 second slower with same or more whp and better powerband is beyond me.

BS.

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

S550s go deep into the 12s. Its not a 13 sec car. but it is equipped with crappy tires. People have gone as fast as 12.4 with 3.55 geared autos, stock.

BS.

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

Hero run? Almost everyone in the bone stock fast list in the the 12s. Fastest time being 12.34 with a DA of -800. The fastest auto 6G SS is 11.9 at -1000 DA. It isnt the mustangs fault that you couldnt drive. I went 13.0 at 2500DA with a 2.2 60ft in stock 255 all seasons. Only able to make one run that night.

Yet a pro driver who is paid to test these cars to their limits and who spends all day every day racing and has decades of experiencing couldn't do better than a 12.9??

[BlaqWhole]

It is common knowledge that the GT is no match for the SS. No way, no how. Even on the Mustang forums all but the most hardcore Mustang fans will readily admit that they're fighting a losing battle and will need mods to keep up with a stock SS. And those hardcore fans are just FOS and can't admit they have a slower car. This information is nothing new. On the whole, no stock GT nowhere in no configuration is doing even mid 12s. It is much much less believable that they can do a low 12 on anything except a downhill track with a tailwind. Now on the other hand, I will give it to them that if you get a M6, upgrade the clutch, axles, driveshaft, suspension, and then hit it with boost with a good tire on it, then and only then will you have a car that will beat just about anything. Provided you don't grenade the engine and trans. But please stop with the BS that these cars bone stock are anything more than underwhelming at best.

[Zeke.Malvo]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

On the whole, no stock GT nowhere in no configuration is doing even mid 12s.

Is that the elusive triple negative??