shop offers 900HP package...

2023_ZL1-AUTO · 04-02-2024, 04:57 PM

So, I ran across the link below for a shop that offers a ZL1 900HP package. I'm not questioning if they can do it or not. I'm just looking at their list of mods and see a lot of mods I have (highlighted in RED) and wondering. With out addressing any fuel system limitations. Is it really the heads, CAM and Meth that's making this big 900HP? The package lists these mods: CAR PERFORMANCE 900HP PACKAGE INCLUDES

Roto-Fab Big Gulp Intake System
Nick Williams LT 103mm Drive-By-Wire Throttle Body
KONG Performance LT4 Stage X CNC Ported Supercharger w/103mm Inlet
Elite Engineering E2-X Catch Can
GripTech 2.30" Upper Pulley w/10-Bolt Hub
ATI Harmonic Balancer and 8-Rib OD Pulley and HD Belt
NGK Spark Plugs
JDP Motorsports Gen V LT4 Head and Camshaft Package
Katech Gen V LT Wet Sump Oil Pump
Ron Davis Racing Heat Exchanger
AeroForce 52mm Single Dash Gauge Pod
AEM X-Series Wideband UEGO AFR Sensor Controller Gauge with OBDII
HP Tuners MPVI3
Alky Methanol Trunk System with Mounting Plate
Mobil1 Engine Oil and GM filter
JDP Limited Warranty
Professional Installation by JDP Motorsports
Custom Dyno and Street Tuning via HP Tuners exclusively by JDP Motorsports

https://www.jdpmotorsports.com/produ...39959206854739

Joshinator99 · 04-02-2024, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2023_ZL1-AUTO

So, I ran across the link below for a shop that offers a ZL1 900HP package. I'm not questioning if they can do it or not. I'm just looking at their list of mods and see a lot of mods I have (highlighted in RED) and wondering. With out addressing any fuel system limitations. Is it really the heads, CAM and Meth that's making this big 900HP? The package lists these mods: CAR PERFORMANCE 900HP PACKAGE INCLUDES

Roto-Fab Big Gulp Intake System
Nick Williams LT 103mm Drive-By-Wire Throttle Body
KONG Performance LT4 Stage X CNC Ported Supercharger w/103mm Inlet
Elite Engineering E2-X Catch Can
GripTech 2.30" Upper Pulley w/10-Bolt Hub
ATI Harmonic Balancer and 8-Rib OD Pulley and HD Belt
NGK Spark Plugs
JDP Motorsports Gen V LT4 Head and Camshaft Package
Katech Gen V LT Wet Sump Oil Pump
Ron Davis Racing Heat Exchanger
AeroForce 52mm Single Dash Gauge Pod
AEM X-Series Wideband UEGO AFR Sensor Controller Gauge with OBDII
HP Tuners MPVI3
Alky Methanol Trunk System with Mounting Plate
Mobil1 Engine Oil and GM filter
JDP Limited Warranty
Professional Installation by JDP Motorsports
Custom Dyno and Street Tuning via HP Tuners exclusively by JDP Motorsports

https://www.jdpmotorsports.com/produ...39959206854739

Heads and cam allow you move much more air through the motor at much lower boost numbers. 900 crank is nothing crazy…probably 750-770 WHP.

DangerZL1 · 04-02-2024, 06:11 PM

The meth allows them to spin the blower faster and make more boost to get to the 900 hp level. I’m sure it’s legit, but I’d rather build without meth. Of course it would probably require a 2650 to get there.

2023_ZL1-AUTO · 04-02-2024, 06:25 PM

ok cool.... I thought it was RWHP not crank.

So meth is better then say a interchiller due ot the fact that it's spraying directly into the air intake/cylinders vs just cooling

Joshinator99 · 04-02-2024, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerZL1

The meth allows them to spin the blower faster and make more boost to get to the 900 hp level. I’m sure it’s legit, but I’d rather build without meth. Of course it would probably require a 2650 to get there.

They’re likely using it for cooling purposes and to help keep the fueling in line. 900 crank is pretty close to maxing out LT4 fueling (with a +32 or more cam lobe of course).

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2023_ZL1-AUTO

ok cool.... I thought it was RWHP not crank.

So meth is better then say a interchiller due ot the fact that it's spraying directly into the air intake/cylinders vs just cooling

You’re better off getting a real fuel system and run E. That’s better than meth or an Interchiller IMO.

JSH · 04-02-2024, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshinator99

Heads and cam allow you move much more air ...

Heads, valve train, lower pulley, headers, CAI is 150 wheel on 93 oct. With the foundation to go a lot further

KingLT1 · 04-03-2024, 07:56 AM

Pretty sure the OP thought the "900" package was rated at the wheels. It's a crank hp rating. As Josh mentioned that equals 750-770whp which is a run of the mill package.

SOCAL.M6.ZLE · 04-03-2024, 10:27 AM

Damn it... I need more parts / HP... not OK being "run of the mill" :(

HAHAHA

*radz28* · 04-03-2024, 10:52 AM

? Or run more boost (with at least an X-port 1740), with all the bolt-ons, with all the E' (and PI and an aux' pump) and make that kind of power without cracking into the engine ?

It wouldn't have a cool chop though...

KingLT1 · 04-04-2024, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SOCAL.M6.ZLE

Damn it... I need more parts / HP... not OK being "run of the mill" :(

HAHAHA

I didn't mean that in a negative way. That is plenty of power for a rwd street car. I just meant that as being an easy reliable power to hit in these cars that is still useable on the street.

2023_ZL1-AUTO · 04-04-2024, 10:34 AM

So, as I'm typing this post. I know a 34% or 38% CAM is in my future. Maybe not the near future since spring/summer is right around the corner. But, this fall when the weather turns to SH. The engine will come out and the built will happen accordingly. I might have a one of the many reputable shops here on the forum do the work. But, I've been inspired by what SOCAL.M6.ZLE has done with his! So I might just do the work myself! Regardless, my build still doesn't have the one thing I want most: A choppy idle !

ARod221 · 04-11-2024, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerZL1

The meth allows them to spin the blower faster and make more boost to get to the 900 hp level. I’m sure it’s legit, but I’d rather build without meth. Of course it would probably require a 2650 to get there.

not at all, I was at 908whp without meth or a 2650, I did use a 2300 though because it was built before the 2650 was released. I'm sure I could have put down the same numbers with a ported stock blower.

Smokin19 · 04-12-2024, 06:21 AM

My "run of the mill" build is a lot of fun for a street car and more than enough for the street. Anything more is impossible to use, unless in Mexico with drags.

BunnyBoy · 04-12-2024, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokin19

My "run of the mill" build is a lot of fun for a street car and more than enough for the street. Anything more is impossible to use, unless in Mexico with drags.

A10 or 6 speed? How does that cam drive?

04-02-2024, 04:57 PM	#1
2023_ZL1-AUTO Drives: 2023 ZL1 - Modified All Bolt On's Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 561	shop offers 900HP package... So, I ran across the link below for a shop that offers a ZL1 900HP package. I'm not questioning if they can do it or not. I'm just looking at their list of mods and see a lot of mods I have (highlighted in RED) and wondering. With out addressing any fuel system limitations. Is it really the heads, CAM and Meth that's making this big 900HP? The package lists these mods: CAR PERFORMANCE 900HP PACKAGE INCLUDES Roto-Fab Big Gulp Intake System Nick Williams LT 103mm Drive-By-Wire Throttle Body KONG Performance LT4 Stage X CNC Ported Supercharger w/103mm Inlet Elite Engineering E2-X Catch Can GripTech 2.30" Upper Pulley w/10-Bolt Hub ATI Harmonic Balancer and 8-Rib OD Pulley and HD Belt NGK Spark Plugs JDP Motorsports Gen V LT4 Head and Camshaft Package Katech Gen V LT Wet Sump Oil Pump Ron Davis Racing Heat Exchanger AeroForce 52mm Single Dash Gauge Pod AEM X-Series Wideband UEGO AFR Sensor Controller Gauge with OBDII HP Tuners MPVI3 Alky Methanol Trunk System with Mounting Plate Mobil1 Engine Oil and GM filter JDP Limited Warranty Professional Installation by JDP Motorsports Custom Dyno and Street Tuning via HP Tuners exclusively by JDP Motorsports https://www.jdpmotorsports.com/produ...39959206854739 __________________ 2023 ZL1 A10 - CSP 2" Long Tube Headers by Stainless Works \| Gesi G-Sport High Flow CATs \| Stainless Works Legend NPP Axle Back \| Roto-Fab Big Gulp \| Kong NM103mm \| Kong X-Port/Polish w/Griptech 2.3" Upper \| Granatelli Malevolent Coil Packs \| Granatelli 0 Ohm Plug Wires \| Katech Valve Covers w/Coil Relocation \| FI Interchillers Blower Spacer Plates \| Mighty Mouse Mild \| JMS Flex Fuel Booster \| DSX Flex Fuel Kit \| DSX Billet Lid \| DMS 2gal Fender Tank \| NT555R2's 305/285 \| AEM w/b AFR \| Banks iDash Data Monster \| HPTuners MPVi3 Module and Licenses (ECU & CCM) \| Remote Tuned by Ted at JRE

04-02-2024, 06:25 PM	#4
2023_ZL1-AUTO Drives: 2023 ZL1 - Modified All Bolt On's Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 561	ok cool.... I thought it was RWHP not crank. So meth is better then say a interchiller due ot the fact that it's spraying directly into the air intake/cylinders vs just cooling __________________ 2023 ZL1 A10 - CSP 2" Long Tube Headers by Stainless Works \| Gesi G-Sport High Flow CATs \| Stainless Works Legend NPP Axle Back \| Roto-Fab Big Gulp \| Kong NM103mm \| Kong X-Port/Polish w/Griptech 2.3" Upper \| Granatelli Malevolent Coil Packs \| Granatelli 0 Ohm Plug Wires \| Katech Valve Covers w/Coil Relocation \| FI Interchillers Blower Spacer Plates \| Mighty Mouse Mild \| JMS Flex Fuel Booster \| DSX Flex Fuel Kit \| DSX Billet Lid \| DMS 2gal Fender Tank \| NT555R2's 305/285 \| AEM w/b AFR \| Banks iDash Data Monster \| HPTuners MPVi3 Module and Licenses (ECU & CCM) \| Remote Tuned by Ted at JRE

04-03-2024, 07:56 AM	#7
KingLT1 Drives: 2016 1SS NFG A8 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: 46804 Posts: 6,801	Pretty sure the OP thought the "900" package was rated at the wheels. It's a crank hp rating. As Josh mentioned that equals 750-770whp which is a run of the mill package. __________________ 2016 NFG 1SS A8 Options-2SS Leather/NPP Perf. mods-Whipple 2.9/Fuel System/Flex Fuel/103mm TB/Rotofab Big Gulp/Cat Deletes/Corsa NPP Per. times- 10.5 @ 137 w/ 1.8 60ft Full weight on 20's 1200DA

04-03-2024, 10:27 AM	#8
SOCAL.M6.ZLE Having FUN in the SUN... Drives: 2022 M6 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: San Diego CA Posts: 1,056	Damn it... I need more parts / HP... not OK being "run of the mill" :( HAHAHA __________________ 2022 M6 ZLE: Katech CNC Ported Blower + Ported Heads + 103mm TB + Oil Pump + C5R Chain + Valve Covers + Coil Relocation TSP VVT and DoD Delete Covers + LME Chain Guide + DSX Billet Lid + ATI Damper + 9.17" Lower + 2.4" Upper + MM Wild CC Coated ARH + AWE Touring + Magnaflow Center X + E85 + MSD Coils + Banks iDash + JMS Booster + Synergy Fender Tank ALL the RED Rear End BMR Goodies + JRE Terminator Cam Package + Remote Tuning and Moral Support from TED @ JRE BMR Motor Mounts + DMS Front HX + FIC 30's + APEX SM.10's + 305/345 R888R's = 770rwhp 785rwtq @E50 13.5psi

04-03-2024, 10:52 AM	#9
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,204 View My Garage	? Or run more boost (with at least an X-port 1740), with all the bolt-ons, with all the E' (and PI and an aux' pump) and make that kind of power without cracking into the engine ? It wouldn't have a cool chop though... __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

04-02-2024, 06:11 PM	#3
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	The meth allows them to spin the blower faster and make more boost to get to the 900 hp level. I’m sure it’s legit, but I’d rather build without meth. Of course it would probably require a 2650 to get there.

04-04-2024, 10:34 AM	#11
2023_ZL1-AUTO Drives: 2023 ZL1 - Modified All Bolt On's Join Date: Dec 2022 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 561	So, as I'm typing this post. I know a 34% or 38% CAM is in my future. Maybe not the near future since spring/summer is right around the corner. But, this fall when the weather turns to SH. The engine will come out and the built will happen accordingly. I might have a one of the many reputable shops here on the forum do the work. But, I've been inspired by what SOCAL.M6.ZLE has done with his! So I might just do the work myself! Regardless, my build still doesn't have the one thing I want most: A choppy idle ! __________________ 2023 ZL1 A10 - CSP 2" Long Tube Headers by Stainless Works \| Gesi G-Sport High Flow CATs \| Stainless Works Legend NPP Axle Back \| Roto-Fab Big Gulp \| Kong NM103mm \| Kong X-Port/Polish w/Griptech 2.3" Upper \| Granatelli Malevolent Coil Packs \| Granatelli 0 Ohm Plug Wires \| Katech Valve Covers w/Coil Relocation \| FI Interchillers Blower Spacer Plates \| Mighty Mouse Mild \| JMS Flex Fuel Booster \| DSX Flex Fuel Kit \| DSX Billet Lid \| DMS 2gal Fender Tank \| NT555R2's 305/285 \| AEM w/b AFR \| Banks iDash Data Monster \| HPTuners MPVi3 Module and Licenses (ECU & CCM) \| Remote Tuned by Ted at JRE

04-12-2024, 06:21 AM	#13
Smokin19 Drives: 19' ZL1 A10, w/pdr Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: S.W. ohio Posts: 1,557	My "run of the mill" build is a lot of fun for a street car and more than enough for the street. Anything more is impossible to use, unless in Mexico with drags. __________________ BTR Stg II cam w/ 38% fuel lobe, ARH 2" headers into 3" w/cats, AWE Touring, Kong X port, Weapon X triple ht exchangers, NW 103, Rotofab big gulp, DSX lowside, TCM tune, BMR Lockout, Mustang dyno 720 rwhp, 634 rwtq on 93 pump.

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