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Old 12-28-2012, 09:30 AM   #15
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Right...

Like GM wouldn't get rid of the likes of Pontiac, Olds, or Hummer...

Like Chevy didn't mothball the Camaro itself for a number of years and if it's sales dip low enough, they'll stop making it again.

The V8 is here for a few more years, but with fuel efficiency numbers on the rise, it's days are numbered.

But a twin-turbo v6 cranking over 400 HP wouldn't be a bad thing...
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:39 AM   #16
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Looking at GM past history, I think a supercharged V6 is more likely than the twin turbo. The install on the assembly line is much easier.
I for one would love to see a OEM supercharged Gen 6, then badge it an RS like he old days instead of using the RS badge as a cosmetic upgrade
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:44 AM   #17
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I truely believe there has to be a V8 option in the Gen6.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:45 AM   #18
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Looking at GM past history, I think a supercharged V6 is more likely than the twin turbo. The install on the assembly line is much easier.
I for one would love to see a OEM supercharged Gen 6, then badge it an RS like he old days instead of using the RS badge as a cosmetic upgrade
LF3 TTV6 is already in development.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:47 AM   #19
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The LT1 (as I have been posting for the past few years) is direct injection, and within the next few years all engines will migrate to it. I dont see the V8 going away, but I do expect to see the single cam pushrod disapear with overhead cams like Ford (and every import) has done.

Also as we see, 4cyl & V6 will be the standard with less and less V8 offerings (look at Fords Ecoboost in the F-150.

Time will tell, but the V8 gasoline engine is getting rarer and rarer.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:16 AM   #20
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I found something that really was a WTF ? moment while cleaning out an old house...a 1979 Popular Mechanics magazine that had an ad for a Ford Fiesta econobox that was advertized to get 55 mpg ! So 33yrs ago they could get better milage than today,of course that had to be smog legislated to death (Thanks Cali)and the new Fiesta gets no where near 55 mpg !
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:20 AM   #21
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I found something that really was a WTF ? moment while cleaning out an old house...a 1979 Popular Mechanics magazine that had an ad for a Ford Fiesta econobox that was advertized to get 55 mpg ! So 33yrs ago they could get better milage than today,of course that had to be smog legislated to death (Thanks Cali)and the new Fiesta gets no where near 55 mpg !
Plus revised (and more accurate) EPA testing methods.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:22 AM   #22
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I do not think they are dumb enough to take away the V8 option but now adays you never know
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:47 AM   #23
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285 hp

So it's comfirmed then? The V6 with 300 + HP is good enough. No more v8's !
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:48 AM   #24
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Guys....there will be a V8, and I'd say we can be pretty confident there will be a turbo 4 cylinder. The only question I have, is if there will be some sort of V6 offering.

I for one, would really love to see a 330+HP NA V6 offering, but if they come out with a turbro 4 making around 300HP/300TQ, I can then see why they might skip out on the sixer...but I hope not.

I'd love to have a lightweight 3,400lb or so Camaro, and mod the V6 into the 350 - 360HP or more range. Would be a pretty sweet ride, for a mid-upper 20K price range.
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Old 12-28-2012, 10:57 AM   #25
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The 6th gen will certainly have a V8. Most likely the LT1 and or some derivative of it. I would imaging it would also have a turbo 4 and a V6 or more likely a turbo V6. What happens to the later models of the 6th gen and the 7th gen after that depends on sales and future CAFE regulations. If people are willing to pay for a V8 and they can be made efficient enough then we'll still have them. One thing is for sure. They are going to change. At some point they will need to resort to start/stop tech and or Hybrid techs to make them efficient enough to not kill them in the CAFE department.

I just hope that when those techs arrive there will be a way to flip a switch so I can hear my V8 idle. It would be sad to not have it idle any more.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:33 PM   #26
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the only reason I could see GM getting rid of the V8 option would be to push those buyers into vetts.

but as for those that think CAFE has nothing to do with it, I thank you for the lol. the people who devise and push those standards don't want any large low MPG engines............period. if they had their way, they'd do away with them all tomorrow. they may not get rid of them in this round, but don't doubt what the end game is.
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:42 PM   #27
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Put 2 I-4 turbo's together and you have a I-8 turbo!!V8 boys would crap the threads on that one
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Old 12-28-2012, 03:53 PM   #28
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March 16, 2012, Edmunds.com:

Evidence there’s at least a semi-seismic shift underway in the U.S. auto market: a source at General Motors Co. told us the the company’s engine-production data indicate GM built a half-million fewer V8 engines in 2011 than it did just five year earlier in 2006.

Last year, GM built approximately 1.15 million V8s in North America. That compares with the roughly 1.7 million V8s GM manufactured in 2006. The drop can be attributed to a number of factors, but it all adds up to one undeniable conclusion: our market is changing.

The number of fewer GM V8s is significant, but does have to be judged in the context of how far total sales dropped off in the past five years. In 2006, when GM made 1.7 million V8s, slightly more than 17 million new vehicles were sold. America’s new-vehicle sales plunged to 10.6 million in 2009 and “recovered” to slightly more than 13 million in 2011 – so GM’s production decline of a half-million V8s came amidst an overall market decline about about 4 million units. In 2006, GM’s market share was 23.9 percent, compared with 19.2 percent in 2011; you do the math on that one.

Beyond that, a portion of the dropoff in GM’s V8 production can be attributed to the broad decline in fullsize pickup and SUV sales brought on by the recession that started in late 2008. But since the recession, another significant trend has been underway: engine downsizing. It’s happening everywhere and isn’t likely to stop unless a crude-oil volcano arises from the Badlands to bring gasoline prices back to $2 a gallon. Ford’s major engine-downsizing initiative – mass fitment of EcoBoost engines – is kicking into high gear; the company said earlier this year it aims to triple production of EcoBoost 4-cylinders and V6s, offering EcoBoost engines in 11 models in 2012 compared with seven models last year.

The German luxury-sport brands no longer are shy about hawking 4-cylinder engines in this market – BMW’s new turbocharged 2-liter already is a staff favorite – and nearly every automaker is working the downsizing equation in some fashion. Heck, the world’s largest purveyor of V12s, Bentley, even is bending to the times and axing cylinders with the addition of V8-powered Continental GT and GTC convertibles – even if its new 4-liter twin-turbo V8 does make 500 horsepower.

In fact, V8 installations for vehicles built in North America hit an all-time low in 2010, according to industry data source extraordinaire Wardsauto.com. Just 20.8 percent of vehicles built in North America in 2010 were fitted with V8s, Ward’s said, although the ratio did rise to 22.5 percent for the ’11 model year. In 2001, 26.5 percent of vehicles built in North America were fitted with V8s.

– Bill Visnic, senior editor, Edmunds.com
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