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RockerBox · 12-12-2014, 10:27 AM

Something doesn't sound right with your trade-in value. They may be giving you that for the trade but they're going to make it up somewhere else.

READ ALL THE FINE PRINT AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON THE SALES CONTRACT!!!!

Dealers hide all kinds of costs and purposely distract you from them. Hence the upbeat music and other salesmen they get to come over and talk cars with you to get you excited about the purchase. They are not your friends and are NOT out for your best interests. I don't care how nice they're being to you. Even if the salesman is cool, it's the manager and finance guy that have the final say on what the deal consists of from their end.
You need to remember this.

If you're not good at prices and looking over stuff then find someone. Always have another person with you when buying. An honest second opinion is worth all the money in the world.

Coop1701 · 12-12-2014, 10:57 AM

I would say take the ZL1... I did a lot of research on what i bought and got something in my price range that would not make my wife kill me. However if I could have done it. I would have jumped on a ZL1.

FilibustaRhymes · 12-12-2014, 11:11 AM

Definitely ZL1. I'm a big fan of factory-engineered performance. No patience anymore for working out the bugs that tend to come with custom builds.

JCunningham · 12-12-2014, 11:55 PM

ZL1. stronger bottom end motor, stronger rear end, stronger brakes, better suspension, and your SS will still only be worth a SS if some one totals it or you sell it. if the trades under $20k id still do it. youll have more than that in your ss to equal a ZL1.

BluePhoenix · 12-13-2014, 08:52 AM

ZL1 for sure, they gave you a very high price on the 2012 2SS almost unrealistic high.

Fiftydriver · 12-13-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DreamDiesel420

I'm really not sure what to do right now, I can supercharge my SS and get about 580-680 hp. That would be really sick since its all aftermarket and I did it my self instead of it being factory hp. It would cost about 7-10 grand (SC price plus the price to install it)

Or I could buy a Camaro ZL1. I got a offer at a dealer to trade in my 2012 2SS for 32 grand, and buy the ZL1 for 44 grand. It would be about 12 grand more, about the same as the SC and I would get a warranty and a already supercharged camaro. As well as the ZL1 breaks, suspension, quad exhaust and the sick hood and front bumper.

Plus I know if I dumped 10 grand into my Camaro SS it would hurt the resale value, no one wants to buy a supercharged Camaro sadly for the same reason I'm nervous putting it on.

Will you be happy with 580 HP at the crank? If so, go with the ZL1. I test drove one and was not overly impressed after driving my Maggie powered L99 with a good tune.

If you want more, may be better just to build your own. Course, if you have the money, the ZL1 can be modded for a lot more power!!! Just costs more.

So what do you guys think? Supercharge my SS or get the ZL1?

If your happy with 580 HP at the crank, get the ZL1. I test drove one and was not overly impressed compared to my Maggie powered 2010 L99 with good tune. I would never consider it a trade up for how I drive the car.

BGKySS · 12-13-2014, 11:16 AM

Get the ZL1. It's hands down a better car and will always be worth more than an SS of the same condition.

This is the same discussion that the v6 owners have when going to an SS. Everyone will tell you to get the ZL1 except for a handful of modded SS owners that will say to keep the SS because they feel their car with x mods is better than a ZL1.
"I've added x part and my car makes the same power as a ZL1 for half the cost" but every other part on the car is maxed out now.

It's not just the power, it's about 100 other things that will make it a better car.

vicnkathy · 12-13-2014, 12:12 PM

Yes the ZL1 is a better car. Unfortunately it's a pipe dream thinking the dealer will pay 32k on a trade in. Never will happen

SlingShot · 12-13-2014, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vicnkathy

Yes the ZL1 is a better car. Unfortunately it's a pipe dream thinking the dealer will pay 32k on a trade in. Never will happen

Never say never ... I traded my 2010 in 6 months a go for $26k and it sold for $28k, it all depends on the market in your area.

Blu Ray · 12-13-2014, 01:04 PM

ZL1

1sick_eg · 12-13-2014, 03:13 PM

If a dealer is offering you 32k for your car, you better take it and run! Like others have said though, make sure to read the fine print and make sure they aren't tacking on that money elsewhere.

TX/ZL1 · 12-13-2014, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGKySS

Get the ZL1. It's hands down a better car and will always be worth more than an SS of the same condition.

This is the same discussion that the v6 owners have when going to an SS. Everyone will tell you to get the ZL1 except for a handful of modded SS owners that will say to keep the SS because they feel their car with x mods is better than a ZL1.
"I've added x part and my car makes the same power as a ZL1 for half the cost" but every other part on the car is maxed out now.

It's not just the power, it's about 100 other things that will make it a better car.

^^^^^this

SSmoothie · 12-14-2014, 12:07 AM

I guess use ZL1 are selling lower than I thought.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ca...US_Cars_Trucks

hammdo · 12-14-2014, 12:13 AM

Depends on what you want.

I'd get a ZL1 no question about it, but I bought a 2SS (before I knew about the ZL1) and have upgraded it.

Putting a ZL1 (LSA) supercharger in mine -- did a ZL1/1LE upgrade (suspension is 1LE, Brakes are ZL1).

-Don

12-12-2014, 11:55 PM	#32
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,070	ZL1. stronger bottom end motor, stronger rear end, stronger brakes, better suspension, and your SS will still only be worth a SS if some one totals it or you sell it. if the trades under $20k id still do it. youll have more than that in your ss to equal a ZL1. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

12-13-2014, 08:52 AM	#33
BluePhoenix Drives: GMC Sierra AT4 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Hanover, PA Posts: 3,282	ZL1 for sure, they gave you a very high price on the 2012 2SS almost unrealistic high. __________________ 2020 GMC Sierra AT4 6.2L WTB - 2010 Camaro 1SS or 2SS, Aqua Blue Metallic, A6

12-13-2014, 11:16 AM	#35
BGKySS Drives: Cyber Grey 2010 2SS RS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Hendersonville Tennessee Posts: 300	Get the ZL1. It's hands down a better car and will always be worth more than an SS of the same condition. This is the same discussion that the v6 owners have when going to an SS. Everyone will tell you to get the ZL1 except for a handful of modded SS owners that will say to keep the SS because they feel their car with x mods is better than a ZL1. "I've added x part and my car makes the same power as a ZL1 for half the cost" but every other part on the car is maxed out now. It's not just the power, it's about 100 other things that will make it a better car. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS -Headers, catback, Holley Mid-rise and a 150 shot-

12-13-2014, 01:04 PM	#38
Blu Ray ALWAYS-N-BOOST Drives: 2021 ZLE A10 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alpine, NJ Posts: 2,376	ZL1 __________________ 2012 1LS M6 Black-Sold 2013 2LT M6 BluRay- Sold 2015 1SS 1LE M6 Black-Sold 2021 ZLE A10 Riverside Blue - Awaiting Arrival 01/10

12-13-2014, 03:13 PM	#39
1sick_eg Drives: 14 Camaro 1LE,328i, and some Hondas Join Date: May 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 799	If a dealer is offering you 32k for your car, you better take it and run! Like others have said though, make sure to read the fine print and make sure they aren't tacking on that money elsewhere. __________________ 14' Camaro 1LE - Now self-tuned FRH ported heads, Cam Motion LL solid roller, Jesel rockers, Morel lifters, Kooks headers, Corsa exhaust, ADM intake, Stock compression/bore/stroke 551whp 504wtq

12-12-2014, 10:27 AM	#29
RockerBox Drives: 2010 Silverado. Stock height now Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Springfield Va Posts: 307	Something doesn't sound right with your trade-in value. They may be giving you that for the trade but they're going to make it up somewhere else. READ ALL THE FINE PRINT AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING ON THE SALES CONTRACT!!!! Dealers hide all kinds of costs and purposely distract you from them. Hence the upbeat music and other salesmen they get to come over and talk cars with you to get you excited about the purchase. They are not your friends and are NOT out for your best interests. I don't care how nice they're being to you. Even if the salesman is cool, it's the manager and finance guy that have the final say on what the deal consists of from their end. You need to remember this. If you're not good at prices and looking over stuff then find someone. Always have another person with you when buying. An honest second opinion is worth all the money in the world.

12-12-2014, 10:57 AM	#30
Coop1701 Drives: 2014 Chevy Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Spartanburg Posts: 453	I would say take the ZL1... I did a lot of research on what i bought and got something in my price range that would not make my wife kill me. However if I could have done it. I would have jumped on a ZL1.

12-12-2014, 11:11 AM	#31
FilibustaRhymes Drives: SS Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: USA Posts: 529	Definitely ZL1. I'm a big fan of factory-engineered performance. No patience anymore for working out the bugs that tend to come with custom builds.

12-13-2014, 12:12 PM	#36
vicnkathy Account Suspended Drives: 2014 Subaru Forester Turbo Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: NY Posts: 536	Yes the ZL1 is a better car. Unfortunately it's a pipe dream thinking the dealer will pay 32k on a trade in. Never will happen

12-14-2014, 12:07 AM	#41
SSmoothie Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6SP Blk/Blk Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: WA Posts: 920 View My Garage	I guess use ZL1 are selling lower than I thought. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ca...US_Cars_Trucks __________________

12-14-2014, 12:13 AM	#42
hammdo 'It's an experiment' Drives: [COTW 2/09/15] '11 GPI LSA SC Z/LE Join Date: May 2014 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 8,694 View My Garage	Depends on what you want. I'd get a ZL1 no question about it, but I bought a 2SS (before I knew about the ZL1) and have upgraded it. Putting a ZL1 (LSA) supercharger in mine -- did a ZL1/1LE upgrade (suspension is 1LE, Brakes are ZL1). -Don