12-03-2012, 12:39 PM | #43 |
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OMG Big mistake. 4 Cylinder? Big Mistake!
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12-03-2012, 12:42 PM | #44 |
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Might as well make it front wheel drive while they are at it.
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12-03-2012, 12:48 PM | #45 | |
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As someone that has driven and ATS with the 2.0T with a manual and automatic, I'm ok with them at least offering this engine on the 6th gen. There will certainly be a V8 option so everyone needs to just relaxe. The 2.0T is a very capable engine when it's in a car that's not too heavy. The big question is whether they can keep the weight down on the next Camaro. |
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Look guys...we need look no further than the absolutely wonderful performing ATS to see what kind of possibilities we may have with the next gen Camaro on the Alpha platform. The base ATS weighs in the low to mid 3,300 range. A loaded ATS with the V6 is in the 3,400 lb range. I fully expect the base 6th gen Camaro to start in the same 3,300 lb range, V6 in the 3,400 lb range and finally the V8 variant in the 3,500 range. The weight savings alone would completely change the performance of these cars. Current V6 weighs 3,750 lbs. The V8 weighs somewhere around 100 - 150 lbs more than that, with all its suspension, brake, and drivetrain upgrades. So if we take the current ATS V6...add another 100 -150 lbs and you guys are looking at an SS (if its even called that) in the 3,550 to 3,600 lb range. Amazing performance potential. I really hope they offer the LFX as well as the 2.0 in this car...at least for the first year or two. Thats what I'd want. I feel so familiar and happy with the V6 now after modding mine, that I think doing a bolt on/tune LFX in the 350 - 370 HP range would be absolutely awesome. The one thing I hate about my car is the weight. In a lighter car with similar gearing, the V6 would absolutely rip. I think the performance of the next gen Camaro is going to be the best ever. Now we just have to hope that GM can once again nail the styling
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12-03-2012, 01:01 PM | #47 |
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The new four banger turbo is a great motor for the Camaro, the people flaming Chevy for it are just trying to be "cool". 272hp from a turbo will monster the current V6 with weight being the same. The torque curve of the turbo will be a huge upgrade, and who doesn't like saving at the pump? All the power with less fuel, yeah so stupid. Some of those turbo 4 cylinder cars out there will give the current SS a run for its money, cue STi and Evo. This won't be on that level, but it won't be slow. Overall, nice job Chevy. I'll keep the V8 for myself, but I would buy the turbo four over the 6cyl for sure.
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12-03-2012, 01:21 PM | #49 |
I think the gmpp tune on the LNF in the Solstice/Sky bumps it up to 340 ft-lb and 340 hp.....pretty impressive for a 4 banger. That would be a good base model for a lighter camaro.
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12-03-2012, 01:26 PM | #50 |
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Different demographic, but I wonder if GM would ever consider a turbo 4 for the vette?
I certainly could be wrong but I would think a turbo 4 would be a midgrade engine just based on manufacturing costs. A turbo 4 would cost more than a six wouldn't it? |
12-03-2012, 01:34 PM | #51 |
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The 2.0 turbo may work if they drop about 1500 lbs. off the current Camaro.
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12-03-2012, 02:14 PM | #52 | |
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12-03-2012, 02:20 PM | #53 |
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Just give a RWD option for the cobalt instead of a 4 cyl. option for the camaro?
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12-03-2012, 02:25 PM | #54 | |
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If true...remember...this is all rumor 3 years out....But if true, this isn't "bad news" that makes the car any less of what it will be...rather, imho...it could be fantastic news. We know the people responsible for this car, Camaro...and we know that THEY know what it's all about. Whatever they offer as a base model, be it a V6 or Turbo 4 cylinder, will absolutely live up to the exciting driving dynamic that is the hallmark of a Camaro. <-- This guy's not worried...in fact, I'm a little bit excited...I'd be all over a 3300-3400 lb turbo 4 6th-gen Camaro to replace the Cobalt, and park alongside the ZL1.....hmmmmmm..... |
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12-03-2012, 02:31 PM | #55 | |
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12-03-2012, 02:32 PM | #56 |
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so much oxygen on so little news..... whew...
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