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2014v6 · 07-09-2013, 09:27 PM

saw e85 the other day at a kroger gas station for 2.77/gal

THUMPER20X · 07-09-2013, 09:45 PM

Im a marine tech with Mercury and this is a bad idea lol. Go ahead save a few bucks on gas and the things that break that you overlook Im sure will outweigh the fuel savings. If its not a flexfuel, which obviously it isn't you'll be playing with fire. I have seen 10% -15% ethanol having caused major issues and even residue problems.

rberns · 07-09-2013, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by blk13SS

I can tell most of you have no clue of the power you can gain out of e85

That's cool and all, but I am willing to give up some HP to keep my fuel lines and everything else from getting corroded and then have to spend a decent chunk of change to fix it.

turboguy327 · 07-09-2013, 11:15 PM

If you tailor your build specifically for corn it's amazing fuel. If your boosted you can run more boost and more timing. More compression and timing if NA. It's great stuff but you clearly don't have the resources or knowledge to play. If you have to ask and your car is stock find other ways to play. You will need to replace all lines hoses fittings pumps injectors to run E85. Yes your MPG drops. Without a great tuner that knows what he is doing you will fail.

turboguy327 · 07-09-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 2014v6

saw e85 the other day at a kroger gas station for 2.77/gal

That is NOT the reason for a E85 conversion.

motorhead · 07-09-2013, 11:18 PM

It sucks as a fuel and is nothing more than a political tool. That's about all you need to know about it.

Falundir · 07-10-2013, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Iam Broke

E85 requires 30% more fuel, larger injectors & fuel pump. Gains are not that great on NA cars, Forced induction is another story. 105 octane, slower burn, more fuel in the mix.

I wonder why rails & funnycars run methanol? lol. More fuel, cooler burning, ect. Lower stoich on methanol than ethanol so even more fuel needed.

Ran a E47 blend for 2 years in a turbo 2.0 l 4 cyl LNF Cobalt SS. It was DI and that's all the fuel system and injectors could provide for at 24 psi boost. Actually I could run up to 60% but it was more convenient to mix 1:1 for E47 and E60 didn't gain much over it. 360 whp/410 wtq on a 4 banger.

Our fuel systems are sealed so water migration is a minimal issue. Marvel Mystery oil in the E makes up for less lubrication than gasoline.

Ya, stay away from E85, your car will implode.

Every time I test my local E85 it tests 85%, in winter here it drops to 70% but Bee gets stored anyway. 15% less E only changes the fuel trims a few %.

Fuel economy suffers, 15 mpg average vs. 20 when I was on 93. 2.89/gal vs. 4.29. It's a wash.

A stock SS could run 35% E and the LTFT's will compensate without a CEL.

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So much misinformation in this thread. Keep reading the above post and then move on.

THUMPER20X · 07-10-2013, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

It sucks as a fuel and is nothing more than a political tool. That's about all you need to know about it.

Bingo, farm subsidies etc etc. Exactly. But it's so green!!!! lol right ok.

derklug · 07-10-2013, 12:53 AM

Corn drippins is for drinkin....anything else is just damned tomfoolery.

Iam Broke · 07-10-2013, 04:49 AM

Ethanol performance from ADM

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274664

fbodfather · 07-10-2013, 06:56 AM

Simply put: The Camaro is not designed to run on E85. If you choose to do so, you will do damage to your Camaro. It will not be covered by warranty.

The fuel handling system is not set up to utilize E85.

Don't do it.

blk13SS · 07-10-2013, 07:01 AM

All you need is upgraded fuel pump/injectors, and a great tuner. You can make ANY car run on e85, some may take more work than others, but it can be done.

MMC · 07-10-2013, 07:15 AM

E85 will increase power in a vehicle designed for it , look at the new 5.3 for a Silverado its rated at 355hp 388tq on gas and 383/416 on E85.

102SS · 07-10-2013, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fbodfather

Simply put: The Camaro is not designed to run on E85. If you choose to do so, you will do damage to your Camaro. It will not be covered by warranty.

The fuel handling system is not set up to utilize E85.

Don't do it.

I would take a GM Executives word for it and run regular pump gas.

07-09-2013, 09:27 PM	#29
2014v6 Drives: 2014 black 2 LT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Fort Worth TX Posts: 639	saw e85 the other day at a kroger gas station for 2.77/gal __________________ Ordered:May 18 2013 2000 status 6-11-13 3000 status 6-12-13 TPW 7-22-13(6-14-13) 3300 status 6-28-13 3400 status 7-18-13 3800 status 7-20-13 4200 status On its way home 6000 status 7-31-13 first camaro ever... Sold 7-5-14.. thank you oshawa assembly

07-09-2013, 09:45 PM	#30
THUMPER20X GM fix my PAINT U suck! Drives: 2010 Black 1SS/RS 6Spd Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Great Red North Posts: 1,856	Im a marine tech with Mercury and this is a bad idea lol. Go ahead save a few bucks on gas and the things that break that you overlook Im sure will outweigh the fuel savings. If its not a flexfuel, which obviously it isn't you'll be playing with fire. I have seen 10% -15% ethanol having caused major issues and even residue problems. __________________

07-10-2013, 12:53 AM	#37
derklug Drives: 12 Boss 302 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi Posts: 1,369	Corn drippins is for drinkin....anything else is just damned tomfoolery. __________________ The biggest mistakes in life come when you know exactly what you are doing.

07-10-2013, 04:49 AM	#38
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	Ethanol performance from ADM http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=274664 __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

07-10-2013, 06:56 AM	#39
fbodfather Drives: Camaros................ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seven Fields, PA (Pittsburgh) Posts: 4,523	Simply put: The Camaro is not designed to run on E85. If you choose to do so, you will do damage to your Camaro. It will not be covered by warranty. The fuel handling system is not set up to utilize E85. Don't do it. __________________

07-09-2013, 11:15 PM	#32
turboguy327 Banned Drives: 2011 Chevy Camaro Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: USA Posts: 704	If you tailor your build specifically for corn it's amazing fuel. If your boosted you can run more boost and more timing. More compression and timing if NA. It's great stuff but you clearly don't have the resources or knowledge to play. If you have to ask and your car is stock find other ways to play. You will need to replace all lines hoses fittings pumps injectors to run E85. Yes your MPG drops. Without a great tuner that knows what he is doing you will fail.

07-09-2013, 11:18 PM	#34
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	It sucks as a fuel and is nothing more than a political tool. That's about all you need to know about it.

07-10-2013, 07:01 AM	#40
blk13SS Drives: '13 1SS LS3 '05 Neon SRT-4 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 195 View My Garage	All you need is upgraded fuel pump/injectors, and a great tuner. You can make ANY car run on e85, some may take more work than others, but it can be done.

07-10-2013, 07:15 AM	#41
MMC Drives: CGM 2SS/RS, 1987 & 2014 Silverado Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Spencerport, NY Posts: 1,012	E85 will increase power in a vehicle designed for it , look at the new 5.3 for a Silverado its rated at 355hp 388tq on gas and 383/416 on E85. __________________