2014 Camaro v6 3.91 gears vs 2012 mustang performance package - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

crc91 · 12-01-2014, 02:57 PM

What do you guys think? A camaro 1ls with 3.91 gears or a mustang v6 with performance package? Who would win 0-60? 1/4 mile? For arguments sake let's just say they are stock except for the gears.

62nalide · 12-01-2014, 03:21 PM

V6 mustang

crc91 · 12-01-2014, 10:54 PM

Damn. Really? I'm not racing this is purely hypothetical. I guess weight just plays that big of a difference I'd at least figure it'd be a drivers race.

62nalide · 12-02-2014, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by crc91

Damn. Really? I'm not racing this is purely hypothetical. I guess weight just plays that big of a difference I'd at least figure it'd be a drivers race.

The P.P. Pony weighs at 3498lbs and hit the 1/4 in 13.60s - 13.50s

a 2014 1ls weighs in at around 3719lbs and its 14.50s est gears wont knock off a sec.

crc91 · 12-02-2014, 12:58 AM

Wow those PP cars are pretty stout. Anyone have any run ins with them? Anyone know anybody who owns one?

GretchenGotGrowl · 12-02-2014, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by crc91

Wow those PP cars are pretty stout. Anyone have any run ins with them? Anyone know anybody who owns one?

JL has a premium and he's on this site. In addition to the weight difference the Camaro V6/M6 has a very low first gear to begin with. Combined with the a 3.91 rear and you will be shifting to second real quick. That gear is better suited for the V6/A6.

crc91 · 12-02-2014, 11:18 AM

Well I'm really not too concerned about 1/4 miles and stuff I'm doing a road course/autox build. Just curious, I know the 3.91 won't help as much at the strip as out on the course

Chrisco22 · 12-02-2014, 10:22 PM

Yeah the v6 mustang is just too much for the v6 camaro. i ran one , a friend of a friends on a private road.. honestly he didn't leave me off the line, but as the mph climbed he started to pull (annoying bc i had work put into my car, all except the headers and black ice.) not sure if that would make a difference. my best pass was 14.161.. i have huge tires and wheels that kill me, but obviously i didn't buy a v6 camaro to be a drag racer. All in all i am impressed with its ability to keep up with stuff from a 60mph roll tho. pretty impressive and a 14 sec v6 car is relatively impressive since it's built to have a big v8 in it. tough to move these things off the line lol.

crc91 · 12-02-2014, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisco22

Yeah the v6 mustang is just too much for the v6 camaro. i ran one , a friend of a friends on a private road.. honestly he didn't leave me off the line, but as the mph climbed he started to pull (annoying bc i had work put into my car, all except the headers and black ice.) not sure if that would make a difference. my best pass was 14.161.. i have huge tires and wheels that kill me, but obviously i didn't buy a v6 camaro to be a drag racer. All in all i am impressed with its ability to keep up with stuff from a 60mph roll tho. pretty impressive and a 14 sec v6 car is relatively impressive since it's built to have a big v8 in it. tough to move these things off the line lol.

Yeah that big rim combo is killing you man, and I agree with you under no circumstances did gm design the v6 camaro to be a drag racer, that being said with some work some of the fine folks on here have done great at the track. I'm more of a road course/autox guy.

KMPrenger · 12-04-2014, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 62nalide

The P.P. Pony weighs at 3498lbs and hit the 1/4 in 13.60s - 13.50s

a 2014 1ls weighs in at around 3719lbs and its 14.50s est gears wont knock off a sec.

The Mustang V6 is quicker but your comparing the very best times of the Mustang to the mid -average Camaro times.

Best magazine times got the Mustang PP in the 13.6 - 13.7 range while the Camaro has achieved around 14.1 or 14.2 best.

crc91 · 12-04-2014, 07:50 PM

Well worst case scenario I'll have a reason for ordering some forced induction! It seems like 98 percent of v6 mustangs on the road are without the performance package.

DSX_Camaro · 12-05-2014, 07:53 AM

You'll get worked with that 3.91 rear end. The SS 3.45 gears would do you much better.

serpent · 12-05-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crc91

Well worst case scenario I'll have a reason for ordering some forced induction! It seems like 98 percent of v6 mustangs on the road are without the performance package.

96% of v6 stangs on the road are rentals!

crc91 · 12-05-2014, 12:49 PM

Lol I agree most of em are.
How are the ligenfelter 3.70 gears? They seem expensive but reason their description it seems like very high quality stuff. Also how are the Richmond 3.73s holding up? I believe the 3.55s were breaking or some members were having trouble with them. I think the 3.70-.73 ratio would be a little better once I go suoercharged one day, in the long run.

12-01-2014, 02:57 PM	#1
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	2014 Camaro v6 3.91 gears vs 2012 mustang performance package What do you guys think? A camaro 1ls with 3.91 gears or a mustang v6 with performance package? Who would win 0-60? 1/4 mile? For arguments sake let's just say they are stock except for the gears. __________________ Patiently waiting for my 2023 SS 1LE

12-01-2014, 03:21 PM	#2
62nalide Drives: 2013 SS Join Date: May 2013 Location: DFW Posts: 4,102	V6 mustang __________________ https://frankensteined.net/ Martin@Frankensteined.net

12-01-2014, 10:54 PM	#3
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Damn. Really? I'm not racing this is purely hypothetical. I guess weight just plays that big of a difference I'd at least figure it'd be a drivers race. __________________ Patiently waiting for my 2023 SS 1LE

12-02-2014, 12:58 AM	#5
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Wow those PP cars are pretty stout. Anyone have any run ins with them? Anyone know anybody who owns one? __________________ Patiently waiting for my 2023 SS 1LE

12-02-2014, 11:18 AM	#7
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Well I'm really not too concerned about 1/4 miles and stuff I'm doing a road course/autox build. Just curious, I know the 3.91 won't help as much at the strip as out on the course __________________ Patiently waiting for my 2023 SS 1LE

12-02-2014, 10:22 PM	#8
Chrisco22 Drives: 2011 Chevy Camaro LS Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United States Posts: 368	Yeah the v6 mustang is just too much for the v6 camaro. i ran one , a friend of a friends on a private road.. honestly he didn't leave me off the line, but as the mph climbed he started to pull (annoying bc i had work put into my car, all except the headers and black ice.) not sure if that would make a difference. my best pass was 14.161.. i have huge tires and wheels that kill me, but obviously i didn't buy a v6 camaro to be a drag racer. All in all i am impressed with its ability to keep up with stuff from a 60mph roll tho. pretty impressive and a 14 sec v6 car is relatively impressive since it's built to have a big v8 in it. tough to move these things off the line lol. __________________ 2011 Camaro LS: [Rally Yellow] [22" Status Rims] [BBK Long Tube Headers w/ High Flow Cats] [Trifecta Tune] [K&N CAI] [Blacked out Bow Ties and Tail Lights] [15% Tint] [MAC Mufflers] [Rear Cat Delete] [Vmax Black Ice]

12-04-2014, 07:50 PM	#11
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Well worst case scenario I'll have a reason for ordering some forced induction! It seems like 98 percent of v6 mustangs on the road are without the performance package. __________________ Patiently waiting for my 2023 SS 1LE

12-05-2014, 07:53 AM	#12
DSX_Camaro Drives: 2013 SW 2LT/RS LFX/AY6 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,741	You'll get worked with that 3.91 rear end. The SS 3.45 gears would do you much better. __________________ K&N CAI, 1LE Strut Tower Brace, Elite Engineering Catch Can and Clean Side Separator, Apex Scoop w/ Washer Relocation Kit, CTS Front Calipers and Rotors, JacFab Ported Intake Manifold, JacFab Intake Manifold Spacer, 80mm Overkill Throttle Body, SS Brake Lines, Ideal Garage Master Cylinder, Monster Twin Disc Clutch, NPP Retrofit w/ Magnaflow Resonated X, ARH Catless Downpipes, JRE Built 3.45 Diff, 1LE Axles, 1LE Hubs, Overkill Tuned, BMR Anti Wheel-hop Kit Stage I, ACS TL1 Hood Insert, ZL1 Spoiler

12-05-2014, 12:49 PM	#14
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Lol I agree most of em are. How are the ligenfelter 3.70 gears? They seem expensive but reason their description it seems like very high quality stuff. Also how are the Richmond 3.73s holding up? I believe the 3.55s were breaking or some members were having trouble with them. I think the 3.70-.73 ratio would be a little better once I go suoercharged one day, in the long run. __________________ Patiently waiting for my 2023 SS 1LE