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crc91 · 06-28-2014, 03:43 PM

Hey guys well I decided to put my savings into a ipf supercharger fund. Here's the kicker I really want some gears!i know some people will say that the 3.91 are too much but that's what I want to go with. I'll be buying the gears for and stay naturally spirited while I upgrade suspension and most importantly tires(going with at least 10 inches wide out back maybe 11 if I can) and about a 19 in length. This should help immensely with the traction issue of the supercharger and the gears correct? And if anyone can explain how 3.91 could be too much please let me know. This will be a auto cross and road course car I'm not much into drag racing I may try it a time or two but it won't be a drag car so those principles don't really apply (as in shifting before the finish and stuff) sorry I'm rambling now. Readyyyyy go!(btw I have a v6 so I need as much torque as possible)

DSX_Camaro · 06-29-2014, 12:39 AM

3.91s get you way out of the power band when trapping. You'd be about halfway through your 4th gear shift - by that I mean around 5500rpms. You'd be no better than stock at all, and I would expect worse honestly. Post supercharger you might be okay - I would think you would actually be pulling hard in your 4th gear with boost. Personally, and some of the other guys agree, 3.45 gears out of the manual SS are what you would want.

Traction in our car isn't exactly an issue. Lol.

crc91 · 06-29-2014, 03:23 AM

I won't be using this car on the drag strip. It's going to be on a road course and auto x where the gears would be better suited. Anyone else have any opinions on this?

911medic · 06-29-2014, 06:46 PM

If you're really looking for torque, and specifically low-end torque, you may want to consider a turbo setup instead of the supercharger.

crc91 · 06-29-2014, 09:40 PM

I did consider the ips turbo and quite frankly it's still an option however after installations it's almost an 8k option the supercharger is a little more in my range for now. This car will see autox and open track day action I feel the supercharger is a little easier to predict in the twisties

crc91 · 06-30-2014, 10:05 PM

Bump

KaBoom1701 · 06-30-2014, 10:52 PM

I'm going with a IPF Supercharger due to easy of installation and you can remove it if need fairly easy.

I track my car so we'll see how it goes.

crc91 · 07-01-2014, 10:53 AM

That's another plus for the ipf supercharger. Honestly it's what I'll probably end up going with unless for some reason ips has some really special pricing goin on! But I think ipf is the way to go. I'll probably bring my car to lethal performance in laffyette louisiana to get it tuned. I've heard good things about these guys and while they are about a 3 hour drive from me I think it's be worth it for good service. Back to the question on 3.91 gears though since it's a centri supercharger it shouldn't be too much gear for it right? What about some quality 3.73 gears from lpe? Especially if I choose not to go with the gm 3.91 gears then I'll need very quality 3.73 gears instead not much whine and something that will hold up unlike those Richmond gears that seem to be breaking

KaBoom1701 · 07-02-2014, 11:44 AM

I would get the IPF supercharger first and see how it drives. You may not need the gears once you get used to the s/c.

crc91 · 07-02-2014, 04:03 PM

What kind if mods can the ipf supercharger be tuned with? I know solo high flow cars are a bad idea. I know a cat back will help ever do slightly. Can u run a rotofab with a centri setup? Ported tb and intake manifold ipf supercharger friendly?

Lil' Nasty · 07-02-2014, 04:24 PM

cant do oem or aftermarket intake with a centri setup (that i've seen) as the SC is in the Oem intake location and the intake (for IPF kit) is routed down near the drivers side fender well, like the long tube injen intake.

sycraft · 07-02-2014, 04:32 PM

If you are a manual car you will get the trans cooking on the road course ( I know from experience) the V6 manual trans holds 1.9 qts of fluid only. I may one day do a pump setup and pump oil to the upper fill hole from the lower drain through a cooler so that I can hopefully cool the fluid a little. My track sessions are shorter due to heat. Not an issue with the SC but a limitation of the car. Now as far as gears, there is plenty of power to get the vehicle to pivot in the turns, no more gear is needed. Drive it first and then decide.

crc91 · 07-02-2014, 07:20 PM

Thanks sycraft, and appreciate the input lil nasty, think there would be a way to lower temps with a universal kit from mishimoto?

06-28-2014, 03:43 PM	#1
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Ipf supercharger questions Hey guys well I decided to put my savings into a ipf supercharger fund. Here's the kicker I really want some gears!i know some people will say that the 3.91 are too much but that's what I want to go with. I'll be buying the gears for and stay naturally spirited while I upgrade suspension and most importantly tires(going with at least 10 inches wide out back maybe 11 if I can) and about a 19 in length. This should help immensely with the traction issue of the supercharger and the gears correct? And if anyone can explain how 3.91 could be too much please let me know. This will be a auto cross and road course car I'm not much into drag racing I may try it a time or two but it won't be a drag car so those principles don't really apply (as in shifting before the finish and stuff) sorry I'm rambling now. Readyyyyy go!(btw I have a v6 so I need as much torque as possible)

06-29-2014, 12:39 AM	#2
DSX_Camaro Drives: 2013 SW 2LT/RS LFX/AY6 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,741	3.91s get you way out of the power band when trapping. You'd be about halfway through your 4th gear shift - by that I mean around 5500rpms. You'd be no better than stock at all, and I would expect worse honestly. Post supercharger you might be okay - I would think you would actually be pulling hard in your 4th gear with boost. Personally, and some of the other guys agree, 3.45 gears out of the manual SS are what you would want. Traction in our car isn't exactly an issue. Lol. __________________ K&N CAI, 1LE Strut Tower Brace, Elite Engineering Catch Can and Clean Side Separator, Apex Scoop w/ Washer Relocation Kit, CTS Front Calipers and Rotors, JacFab Ported Intake Manifold, JacFab Intake Manifold Spacer, 80mm Overkill Throttle Body, SS Brake Lines, Ideal Garage Master Cylinder, Monster Twin Disc Clutch, NPP Retrofit w/ Magnaflow Resonated X, ARH Catless Downpipes, JRE Built 3.45 Diff, 1LE Axles, 1LE Hubs, Overkill Tuned, BMR Anti Wheel-hop Kit Stage I, ACS TL1 Hood Insert, ZL1 Spoiler

06-29-2014, 06:46 PM	#4
911medic Drives: 2012 SIM 2LT/1970 Camaro Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Near Minneapolis, MN Posts: 1,578	If you're really looking for torque, and specifically low-end torque, you may want to consider a turbo setup instead of the supercharger. __________________ All bleeding stops eventually -- 2012 2LT Auto w/sunroof -- My journal thread Roto-Fab Intake & W/W Relocate Kit -- ADM Race Scoop -- Dynomax VT Axle-Back Exhaust -- Vitesse Throttle Controller RX Catch Can -- Drake Bowtie Delete -- JacFab Radio Face Cover -- LED Fog Lights -- LED Dome/Trunk/Plate Lights -- Gen5DIY Dash ABL -- Diode Dynamics Cupholder Lighting Wishlist: ACS T5 Splitter -- Hood Vent Mod -- Footwell/Door Pull/Homelink Button Lighting

06-30-2014, 10:52 PM	#7
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I'm going with a IPF Supercharger due to easy of installation and you can remove it if need fairly easy. I track my car so we'll see how it goes. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

07-02-2014, 11:44 AM	#9
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	I would get the IPF supercharger first and see how it drives. You may not need the gears once you get used to the s/c. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

06-29-2014, 03:23 AM	#3
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	I won't be using this car on the drag strip. It's going to be on a road course and auto x where the gears would be better suited. Anyone else have any opinions on this?

06-29-2014, 09:40 PM	#5
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	I did consider the ips turbo and quite frankly it's still an option however after installations it's almost an 8k option the supercharger is a little more in my range for now. This car will see autox and open track day action I feel the supercharger is a little easier to predict in the twisties

06-30-2014, 10:05 PM	#6
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Bump

07-01-2014, 10:53 AM	#8
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	That's another plus for the ipf supercharger. Honestly it's what I'll probably end up going with unless for some reason ips has some really special pricing goin on! But I think ipf is the way to go. I'll probably bring my car to lethal performance in laffyette louisiana to get it tuned. I've heard good things about these guys and while they are about a 3 hour drive from me I think it's be worth it for good service. Back to the question on 3.91 gears though since it's a centri supercharger it shouldn't be too much gear for it right? What about some quality 3.73 gears from lpe? Especially if I choose not to go with the gm 3.91 gears then I'll need very quality 3.73 gears instead not much whine and something that will hold up unlike those Richmond gears that seem to be breaking

07-02-2014, 04:03 PM	#10
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	What kind if mods can the ipf supercharger be tuned with? I know solo high flow cars are a bad idea. I know a cat back will help ever do slightly. Can u run a rotofab with a centri setup? Ported tb and intake manifold ipf supercharger friendly?

07-02-2014, 04:24 PM	#11
Lil' Nasty [COTW 4/13/15] Drives: Supercharged LLT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 5,957	cant do oem or aftermarket intake with a centri setup (that i've seen) as the SC is in the Oem intake location and the intake (for IPF kit) is routed down near the drivers side fender well, like the long tube injen intake. __________________ LiL' Nasty's Build Journal

07-02-2014, 04:32 PM	#12
sycraft COTW 5/06/2013 Drives: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport-Ho-Vette Join Date: May 2012 Location: Milford, Michigan Posts: 3,201 View My Garage	If you are a manual car you will get the trans cooking on the road course ( I know from experience) the V6 manual trans holds 1.9 qts of fluid only. I may one day do a pump setup and pump oil to the upper fill hole from the lower drain through a cooler so that I can hopefully cool the fluid a little. My track sessions are shorter due to heat. Not an issue with the SC but a limitation of the car. Now as far as gears, there is plenty of power to get the vehicle to pivot in the turns, no more gear is needed. Drive it first and then decide. __________________ 2017 Grand Sport, Borla X Pipe.....Enough Said

07-02-2014, 07:20 PM	#13
crc91 Drives: '14 1LS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Mandeville Posts: 2,166	Thanks sycraft, and appreciate the input lil nasty, think there would be a way to lower temps with a universal kit from mishimoto?