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No way a GM rep discussed weights of the prototype at a GM gathering. Just blowing smoke....he said she said kind of stuff.
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The old CTS ranged from $38k-$50k, the new ATS ranges from $38-$58k so i fail to see your point. GM uses multiple cars on the same chasis to deal with exactly what you say. The engineering cost for a camaro alne is too much but combined with the ATS it isnt. In fact it would cost more to remove the light weight components from the ATS and reengineer then with heavier components for the Camaro. Obviosly some suspension items for each car will be custom for that vehicle but it wont add 200lbs to car. The engine and trans will be the biggest weight gainers, minor suspension gains will be offset by lighter wheels and less doors.
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05-30-2014, 05:02 PM | #31 |
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I tend to agree with this. Although the Camaro has less doors and likely lighter wheels to help offset. The C5 is about 200lbs lighter than the V6 CTS, so why should it be so surprising for the C6 to match the weight of the V6 ATS?
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Re: shorter length. Obviously, the current Camaro is ~8 inches longer than the ATS. Technically, though, we don't know the length of the new Camaro. Heck, for all we know, it could be SHORTER than an ATS. Sure, that's unlikely, but we just don't know.
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05-30-2014, 05:33 PM | #33 |
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I agree. When they came out with the Camaro concept, I was like, "Really!?!?, no way it's gonna happen." But I waited and waited. When it finally came to fruition, I was happy like a kid in a candy store. So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I just want to be wowed again, and again, and again. LOL!!!
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6th gen SS coming in at 3400 lbs would pretty much be a miracle.
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05-30-2014, 06:29 PM | #36 |
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Let me go on record as saying this. I did not attend myself but several buddies did. GM once again had a decent presence at the show as they always do. They brought out a C7, Z/28 and a spring edition car. During the course of the show the above was stated to quite a few people during one of the many talks. Is any of it true? Who knows but, as i said earlier i doubt anyone would just blurt out random jibberish at a major Fbody gathering. Guess we will have to see. I hope it is even mostly true lol.
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I'll keep my ears open, but several members of the club I belong to (Detroit5thGen) work at various GM departments including the Warren Tech Center and some of them see Al every day, and none of them would ever leak any kind of information no matter if it's been reported in the news somewhere or not. They value their jobs much too much. But I will see if I hear anything. Note: Al O has confirmed he'll be coming with other members of the Camaro team and I know they are bringing their Z/28 captured test fleets. In the past, they've let show participants sit in their CTF cars so we might have the same luck this year as well if you really want to get in a Z/28 and check it out. Scott just confirmed that we'll have a Z/28, Chevy SS sedan, and a Corvette Stingray on display on Saturday. Al is planning on being there, Aaron Link is planning on being there, if you're in the area this is not a show to miss! |
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Or just a really small sixth gen. With the fifth gen the designers really stuck it to the engineers with what they could pull off performance wise and look what they accomplished. Weight isn't usually announced before we ever even see a mule so I'm very skeptical of that comment. I hope it's true though.
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Look what they did with the gm trucks gmt900 - k2's slight body change but overall very similar.
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The real question would be what was on the car to get that weight? What trim? Did it have fully functional electronics or the real interior? Can it be done? Have any carbon components made it over from what they learned for the C7, we all know things like interior and wheels can easily change say from now until production. Anything is possible i guess.
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There was a lot of worry about the 5th gen that GM was really going to cock it up from a design and performance perspective. This is back when the modern 5th gen community didn't really know the guys behind the scenes at GM.
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