Tsp 2" Lt headers install.........

[litle88]

Yea I would see how an NHRA car can benefit since they need to squeeze all they can, but a stock Ls3? For a .08 better time slip ill just take a mean dump before I his the staging lanes lol.

[Cuda7050]

Originally Posted by Camarojt

Not trying to he critical here, but how would someone determine that a .08 gain came from the collector design?? I realize it's on a stock class car, but still there are enough unseen factors to create a minuscule .08 difference. Wind difference, the slightest tire grip or spin, lane choice, tire pressure, shift points, etc...

I have gained or lost .1-.2 tenths with ZERO changes to anything. Now lets say i could go back in time and just say hypothetically I did some type of modification on 1 of those particular runs that theoretically gave me no gain, (like I closed all my AC vents). Would it be fair to say that "Dude I closed my AC vents and it picked up my car .1??
Sure, it happened right in front of me, but that doesn't mean that the AC vents being closed had any affect on a .1 difference.

My family raced a four car team in Stock and Super Stock for 25+ years. In the last 10 years every run is logged with on board computers and correlated with weather stations in the trailer. Runs that spin are not used in comparisons, so you do end up with a pretty good understanding of what worked or didn't work. .08 gain is a lot in a max effort race car, so when you see it with the data to verify it, you know its real. You don't get to be a #1 qualifier or class record holder without a lot of track time to verify what you think you found on the dyno. If a max effort 450 hp stocker can pick up .08, a street can will probably pick up even more if the combination is correct for the car.

"I have gained or lost .1-.2 tenths with ZERO changes to anything" I understand, street cars with street tires on poorly prepped tracks are much more dificult to do back to back comparisons. Running my LS3 with poor traction on street tires at the drags can be fustrating and inconsistent. Look, I come on to Camaro5 to learn what works like most everyone else, occassionally, I try to help someone learn from my experience

[litle88]

Man those must of been some good azz times! I always wanted to but LIFE interferes sometimes.

[Camarojt]

[QUOTE=Cuda7050;6811350]My family raced a four car team in Stock and Super Stock for 25+ years. In the last 10 years every run is logged with on board computers and correlated with weather stations in the trailer. Runs that spin are not used in comparisons, so you do end up with a pretty good understanding of what worked or didn't work. .08 gain is a lot in a max effort race car, so when you see it with the data to verify it, you know its real. You don't get to be a #1 qualifier or class record holder without a lot of track time to verify what you think you found on the dyno. If a max effort 450 hp stocker can pick up .08, a street can will probably pick up even more if the combination is correct for the car.

Well, I asked how, and you sir explained. Thank you for the explanation and yes that does make it more credible now.

[thahemp]

Learn something every day or die stupid!

[Cuda7050]

Originally Posted by litle88

Man those must of been some good azz times! I always wanted to but LIFE interferes sometimes.

Yea, without a doubt wonderful times. Thanks to my dad, uncle and a few good friends for financing a sport that I could never afford on my own.

Here is a crappy picture of my the last car I drove for about 10 years. It was an awesome car and owned by a great friend:

[Camarojt]

Originally Posted by Cuda7050

Yea, without a doubt wonderful times. Thanks to my dad, uncle and a few good friends for financing a sport that I could never afford on my own.

Here is a crappy picture of my the last car I drove for about 10 years. It was an awesome car and owned by a great friend:

I'd buy a bucket of merge spikes if it would make my car leave like that!! Lol

[litle88]

[QUOTE=Camarojt;6812124]

Originally Posted by Cuda7050

My family raced a four car team in Stock and Super Stock for 25+ years. In the last 10 years every run is logged with on board computers and correlated with weather stations in the trailer. Runs that spin are not used in comparisons, so you do end up with a pretty good understanding of what worked or didn't work. .08 gain is a lot in a max effort race car, so when you see it with the data to verify it, you know its real. You don't get to be a #1 qualifier or class record holder without a lot of track time to verify what you think you found on the dyno. If a max effort 450 hp stocker can pick up .08, a street can will probably pick up even more if the combination is correct for the car.

Well, I asked how, and you sir explained. Thank you for the explanation and yes that does make it more credible now.

LOL explained and had pics for us too!

That's beyond awesome!
Thanks for sharing! I appreciate that.

[Camarojt]

It would be awesome if we could get these 5th gen's to wheel stand like that, without running high 7's or low 8's! DiamondMike...is it possible???

[429]

Originally Posted by Camarojt

It would be awesome if we could get these 5th gen's to wheel stand like that, without running high 7's or low 8's! DiamondMike...is it possible???

I can pull the front about 18 inches if I crank the coilovers to full stiff and it hooks.

[Camarojt]

Originally Posted by 429

I can pull the front about 18 inches if I crank the coilovers to full stiff and it hooks.

Awesome!! This is what I wanna see, what does it take to get them up in the air? How fast is your car? Got any pics??

[litle88]

And do a live axle! Eint gonna happen with an IRS. But it would be cool if they did!

[Jason 98 TA]

Let me know when that car needs a big camshaft!! :P

[litle88]

Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA

Let me know when that car needs a big camshaft!! :P

Will do!

Lol I think I might get those small bore Ls7 heads first lol and a Holley highram for the TA!