Stingray over a ZL1? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

snackbar64 · 09-29-2013, 06:58 PM

Stingrays' are popping up at dealerships this weekend and I read and hear that some new Vette customers are giving up their ZL1s to get them. So I write this thread to ask just how great is this new Vette?

It looks amazing and has tons of technology packed in, but to me the performance numbers do not seem much better if any than the grand sport it replaces. Zero to 60 times and quarter mile are nearly identical. I do know it will supposedly out handle the previous Vette, but what makes this car worth giving up a ZL1 for? I would just like to know your thoughts fellas, not bashing the Vette. So anyone having thoughts of swapping their Z for a V, let me know why.

I think it's a gorgeous machine and I may own it or a similar American machine in the next few months in addition to my ZL1. Don't think I could part with it for any similarly priced sports car right now. It's that amazing to me.

serviceguy · 09-29-2013, 07:06 PM

It's really different, myself, I'm more traditional vette. I own a C5, never thought much of C6. The C7 is a little to radical for me. plan on keeping my ZL1 !
Horsepower difference alone is a great reason for me

JorgeSS · 09-29-2013, 07:09 PM

To me? They look like a great vehicle!
But I would wait for a higher level vet to come out

ckaram · 09-29-2013, 07:10 PM

Yes

StealthZL1 · 09-29-2013, 07:11 PM

I originally intended to buy a 2014 Stingray. I decided on the ZL1 because it has back seats for my children.

snackbar64 · 09-29-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JorgeSS

To me? They look like a great vehicle!
But I would wait for a higher level vet to come out

I agree! I am waiting for the ZO6 to be released.

SPOOKYGUNNER · 09-29-2013, 07:16 PM

UNTIL They MAKE BETTER HP AND HANDLING ON THE NEW VETTE I WILL STICK WITH MY ZL1. ID LOVE TO HAVE A ZR1 BUT DONT HAVE $125K TO SPEND..
I LIKE MY ZL1 VERT....HANFLES GREAT BOTH IN A STRAIGHT LINE AND IN THE CORNERS. ..A POOR MANS ZR1.

MARINE1991 · 09-29-2013, 07:18 PM

Any day of the week and twice on Sunday

bumblebeecamaro · 09-29-2013, 07:32 PM

There was a C7 at the local car show this weekend. Let's just say I wasn't impressed. It might have been a cheapy C7 because the tires and wheels were smaller than my Z's. That alone made the car look wimpy-wimpy to me.

snackbar64 · 09-29-2013, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPOOKYGUNNER

UNTIL They MAKE BETTER HP AND HANDLING ON THE NEW VETTE I WILL STICK WITH MY ZL1. ID LOVE TO HAVE A ZR1 BUT DONT HAVE $125K TO SPEND..
I LIKE MY ZL1 VERT....HANFLES GREAT BOTH IN A STRAIGHT LINE AND IN THE CORNERS. ..A POOR MANS ZR1.

My thoughts exactly! This Vette is really nice but to me the 505 HP 7.0 should be the base engine in the Stingray. I wonder how it stacks up to the ZL1 on the track

LuckyZL-1 · 09-29-2013, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthZL1

I originally intended to buy a 2014 Stingray. I decided on the ZL1 because it has back seats for my children.

I'm in the same boat. I still have a little one that can't ride in the front seat.
I wouldn't give up my ZL-1 though I'd park the Stingray next to it!

OldScoolCamaro · 09-29-2013, 08:14 PM

....there's a crossover market, and there are the dyed in the wool people. I really dig the look of the C7, I think it is phenominal. They did a great job on it asthetically. Plus the performance is par excellence. It's really hot looking. But, I have a been a Camaro guy my entire life and that's where my allegiance lies.

2010SLVRBULIT · 09-29-2013, 08:21 PM

sure.

jessrayo · 09-29-2013, 08:25 PM

First of all, the chassis is phenomenal. As bumblebee pointed out in his post, the stingray has narrower tires than the stock ZL1 yet it makes 1.08 G on the skidpad. It basically can spank any stock car at twice it's price or less around a tight race track, GT-R included. ZL-1 is not bad but it just is not in the same league if you really want to get stupid in the corners. Stingray only is rated at 460 hp but I'm pretty sure after the tuners start working these things over and someone puts some real tires on them they are going to be untouchable. If you like you car stock, wait for more vette options. If you don't mind upgrading your engine outside the warranty, this new platform is worthy of considerations. I can't imagine what that thing would do on a set of hoosier r-6 race tires with a TVS 2300 blower on top of it!

09-29-2013, 06:58 PM	#1
snackbar64 Drives: SW 2017 ZL1, M6, Carbon, Nav, MR, Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Prosper, TX Posts: 801	Stingray over a ZL1? Stingrays' are popping up at dealerships this weekend and I read and hear that some new Vette customers are giving up their ZL1s to get them. So I write this thread to ask just how great is this new Vette? It looks amazing and has tons of technology packed in, but to me the performance numbers do not seem much better if any than the grand sport it replaces. Zero to 60 times and quarter mile are nearly identical. I do know it will supposedly out handle the previous Vette, but what makes this car worth giving up a ZL1 for? I would just like to know your thoughts fellas, not bashing the Vette. So anyone having thoughts of swapping their Z for a V, let me know why. I think it's a gorgeous machine and I may own it or a similar American machine in the next few months in addition to my ZL1. Don't think I could part with it for any similarly priced sports car right now. It's that amazing to me.

09-29-2013, 07:09 PM	#3
JorgeSS Mayhem SS Drives: 2010 2SS/RS L99 SW/IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: ROMA, TX Posts: 949	To me? They look like a great vehicle! But I would wait for a higher level vet to come out __________________ Mayhem SS - 6.2, Roto-Fab CAI, Pacesetter Headers/Magnaflow X-pipe, Built by TMS, Tuned by File La Muerte Z71 - Stock 5.3 Tuned by File

09-29-2013, 07:10 PM	#4
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	Yes __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

09-29-2013, 07:16 PM	#7
SPOOKYGUNNER ROCK Drives: 2013 ZL-1 TRIPLE BLACK VERT Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: DENVER COLORADO Posts: 609	UNTIL They MAKE BETTER HP AND HANDLING ON THE NEW VETTE I WILL STICK WITH MY ZL1. ID LOVE TO HAVE A ZR1 BUT DONT HAVE $125K TO SPEND.. I LIKE MY ZL1 VERT....HANFLES GREAT BOTH IN A STRAIGHT LINE AND IN THE CORNERS. ..A POOR MANS ZR1. __________________ WHEN ONE AMERICAN IS NOT WORTHY TO BE FOUND...THEN WE AS AMERICANS HAVE LOST. POW/MIA YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN

09-29-2013, 07:32 PM	#9
bumblebeecamaro Car Lover By Nature Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue Metallic SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Central FL Posts: 2,327 View My Garage	There was a C7 at the local car show this weekend. Let's just say I wasn't impressed. It might have been a cheapy C7 because the tires and wheels were smaller than my Z's. That alone made the car look wimpy-wimpy to me. __________________

09-29-2013, 07:06 PM	#2
serviceguy Drives: 2014 Z/28 # 89, 69 Camaro, 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Flint MI Posts: 669	It's really different, myself, I'm more traditional vette. I own a C5, never thought much of C6. The C7 is a little to radical for me. plan on keeping my ZL1 ! Horsepower difference alone is a great reason for me

09-29-2013, 07:11 PM	#5
StealthZL1 Drives: 2013 Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 321 View My Garage	I originally intended to buy a 2014 Stingray. I decided on the ZL1 because it has back seats for my children.

09-29-2013, 07:18 PM	#8
MARINE1991 Drives: COTW 8/29/11 2010 CAMARO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: HOMELESS Posts: 10,010 View My Garage	Any day of the week and twice on Sunday

09-29-2013, 08:14 PM	#12
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	....there's a crossover market, and there are the dyed in the wool people. I really dig the look of the C7, I think it is phenominal. They did a great job on it asthetically. Plus the performance is par excellence. It's really hot looking. But, I have a been a Camaro guy my entire life and that's where my allegiance lies. __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof. Last edited by OldScoolCamaro; 09-29-2013 at 08:28 PM.

09-29-2013, 08:21 PM	#13
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	sure.

09-29-2013, 08:25 PM	#14
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	First of all, the chassis is phenomenal. As bumblebee pointed out in his post, the stingray has narrower tires than the stock ZL1 yet it makes 1.08 G on the skidpad. It basically can spank any stock car at twice it's price or less around a tight race track, GT-R included. ZL-1 is not bad but it just is not in the same league if you really want to get stupid in the corners. Stingray only is rated at 460 hp but I'm pretty sure after the tuners start working these things over and someone puts some real tires on them they are going to be untouchable. If you like you car stock, wait for more vette options. If you don't mind upgrading your engine outside the warranty, this new platform is worthy of considerations. I can't imagine what that thing would do on a set of hoosier r-6 race tires with a TVS 2300 blower on top of it! __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.