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10-02-2015, 03:13 PM
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  Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT/RS (V6) Join Date: Dec 2008
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When do the '16s come out?
Anyone know when the 2016s will be on dealer lots and available for lease? None of my dealers seem to know when, but I've heard various rumors.
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10-02-2015, 03:31 PM
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December/January
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10-02-2015, 03:38 PM
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10-02-2015, 03:49 PM
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I would watch for dealerships to get some training on the new cars. That shouldn't be to much longer I would think. When the S550 came out, some people saw the training cars at the dealership and had an opportunity to see the cars then.
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10-02-2015, 04:06 PM
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Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Dec 2014
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Im betting late December, at best for any dealer INVENTORY. All the customers orders will come 1st.
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'16 2SS, Summit White. A8. MRC. NPP.
Ordered:09/03/15. Received 12/22/15 INCOMING: ‘22 ZL1, Satin Steel. A10. PDR. Ordered: 03/02/22. |
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10-02-2015, 04:10 PM
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And it has not so changed. Laborsmith |
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10-02-2015, 04:48 PM
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Some of you that have ordered will be upset when people walk onto the lot and get theirs before you.
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10-02-2015, 04:52 PM
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Early November for orders placed.
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10-02-2015, 05:06 PM
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Drives: 16 2SS Join Date: Dec 2014
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Sure, Im sure you will be able to walk onto a lot end of December for a NON-SS model. But those do not concern me, so honestly, I didnt even think about them. My bad. The SS's wont be sitting on any lots as inventory(to be FOUND, anyway) until end of December, at best. Thats my bet. But, I dont mind being wrong, if it gets more on the street!
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'16 2SS, Summit White. A8. MRC. NPP.
Ordered:09/03/15. Received 12/22/15 INCOMING: ‘22 ZL1, Satin Steel. A10. PDR. Ordered: 03/02/22. |
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10-02-2015, 05:08 PM
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I'm guessing and hoping you're wrong.. Just as the Mustang people were upset that people were picking up GT models from dealer.. My buddy ordered in may and got his EARLY December.
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10-02-2015, 05:20 PM
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Probably pre-ordered in May.
My guess is at least one LT will be built for each SS, and eight SS builds will be retail sold for one LT retail sold. But the first few weeks of builds, no matter LT or SS or retail or stock or fleet sold, will all be shipping about the same time. Laborsmith |
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10-02-2015, 06:28 PM
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Drives: 2011 BMW 328i / 2016 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2013
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To put this in perspective...
The "all new" 1970 Camaro was not available until February of that year! Let's hope this model doesn't trump the 70's lag time. |
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10-02-2015, 06:59 PM
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But first, remember 2 things. 1) The manufactures customer is the dealership. 2) The dealerships customer is you. So when you have to wait for a car you ordered, keep in mind that the dealership is also waiting for a car they ordered. Anyway, allocation. As best I understand it, each dealership is estimated to sell a certain number of each model per month so the manufacturer earmarks them for a certain number of orders each month. This is their allocation. If a dealer accepts 20 orders, but only has 3 build-slots available each month it will take 7 months for them to get all their orders through the system. On the other hand, if somebody else only has 2 orders for 3 slots ... you could have been the 3rd & got your car right away instead of them ordering one for themselves to sit on the lot. The allocation system is setup to allow fairness to all dealers. I'm pretty sure that at one point I read that allocation numbers are based on a wide variety of factors including past sales by that dealer, market demographics, and sales of similar vehicles in that area. Its done to prevent manufacturers from giving certain dealerships a disproportionate number of profitable/quick to sell cars. Its not a perfect predictor, but so long as there exists more than 1 dealership per manufacturer ... some system is needed to fairly divy up production between them.
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10-02-2015, 07:21 PM
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DGthe3: because several years passed after the end of Gen4 and the start of Gen5, that was how allocations was determined for Gen5. Not to mention GM halved the number of Chevrolet dealerships, ostensibly as part of the bankruptcy. Yes, I am a cynic.
Allocation in general is simpler, easier to determine, and, most important, are based on a particular vehicle line sales a particular dealer delivered in the previous model year. There are a few exceptions, but each only proves the rule. What must be remembered is that allocations are defendable in a court of law. Forget that and the system makes no sense. I am not defending the system. I have in fact come up with what I thought were better systems, posted them on forums, and watched as each was picked apart. For most models the allocation system is not even noticeable. For the Corvette, and to a lessor extent the Camaro, it is noticeable and when noticed can generate a ton of hostile posts. But hostile posts are not probative evidence in a court of law and numbers (sales figures) most definitely are. Laborsmith |
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