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StevenBateman · 09-29-2017, 06:36 AM

I love my BTR Stage 4 cam. With my set up its very lopey at idle and the car shakes and wants to jump forward when you're sitting at a light. Might not be ideal for everyone, but I absolutely love it. Not to mention its pretty damn loud which is all part of the fun. You gotta remember though, it's not about the miles per gallon, its about the smiles per gallon

MosesBarkley · 09-29-2017, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StevenBateman

I love my BTR Stage 4 cam. With my set up its very lopey at idle and the car shakes and wants to jump forward when you're sitting at a light. Might not be ideal for everyone, but I absolutely love it. Not to mention its pretty damn loud which is all part of the fun. You gotta remember though, it's not about the miles per gallon, its about the smiles per gallon

"...it's not about the miles per gallon, its about the smiles per gallon"...

Very well stated!

ARuiz9 · 09-29-2017, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by racesloth

Hard to beat the Vengeance VSRP II cam for low speed driveability and no bucking. Mine dynoed out at 457rwhp with LT and CAT back (Corsa).

Vengeance-racing-vrsp2-camshaft-227-235-614-621-115-87.html

This is my Camaro in the vid:

different Camaro same cam:

I think I like this one I might look into this one a little more. Thanks for the help.

StevenBateman · 09-29-2017, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MosesBarkley

"...it's not about the miles per gallon, its about the smiles per gallon"...

Very well stated!

Nothin like driving with a perma-grin

Sturgill_SS · 09-29-2017, 04:51 PM

stevenbateman, thinking about going with the Stage4 myself! Good choice I assume!?

StevenBateman · 09-29-2017, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sturgill_SS

stevenbateman, thinking about going with the Stage4 myself! Good choice I assume!?

I love my set up! All depends on personal preference too. Very lopey at idle, the car actually shakes and tries to jerk forward when you're at a stop light. I personally enjoy all of that. Not to mention its stupid loud, which is a lot of fun too!

Sturgill_SS · 09-29-2017, 05:44 PM

That's what I'm looking for! I have all the supporting mods. 3.91's, underdrive pulley, etc.. I want a good lopey rough ride! how is the performance side of the cam?

StevenBateman · 09-29-2017, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sturgill_SS

That's what I'm looking for! I have all the supporting mods. 3.91's, underdrive pulley, etc.. I want a good lopey rough ride! how is the performance side of the cam?

It's pretty solid. Doesn't kick in until the higher rpms but damn does she go

eLeSthree · 10-03-2017, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by christianchevell

Basically your going to loose 2 mpg with a cam and your foot will want to press harder as the car is a different beast, learn to live with it or don't do it, even the crappy "
HOT CAM" or ASA 525 hp cam with lower lifts are going to increase the duration so much its going to increase the AFR and thus less mileage, the deal is...crapier around town; not much different on the highway for mileage. Though some smaller lift cams like the ASA cam can use springs that are more valve train friendly..... and 525 flywheel -15% drivetrain loss manual or 20 auto = 446.25 to the wheels manual.

Hey man, don't knock the ASA! LOL It works for me. ASA, CAI, 2inch TSP LT headers, and 3 inch exhaust got me 502/445 on a mustang dyno. Others here made 486 with it. It's my toy car though, so I average 11.5mpg. WOT everytime she leaves the garage. ha!

But the tight 110 lsa sucks. I would look for something a little more street friendly.

Its the opposite of the larger cams, it hits hard at 3000- and pulls really well until 6400ish. Instead of being soft low, and freight train up top.

13SSCamaro · 10-03-2017, 07:21 PM

I have the new TSP stage 3 cam. made 487 rwhp. I average 21.8mpg on the highway and about 17 city. I drive a lot. I have zero issues daily driving it. I absolutely love the looks and thumbs up i get. I have had people stop me on the street to ask about the mods. I love the lopey cam and if tuned right has minimal issues with drivability.

OzzySS · 10-04-2017, 11:33 AM

i installed a turbo cam and was tuned when I still had LTs/cai a few years ago, made 478whp and would get 23mpg at 70mph, 21mpg at 80mph cruising on the highway. so it's not impossible to get an aggressive cam and maintain decent mileage, but you'd want a good tuner. my city mileage still sucked tho, probably worse than 12-14, I don't think there's a way around that.

ARuiz9 · 10-04-2017, 03:38 PM

17 in the city? Really? I'm still trying to understand cam specs and I was told to stay in the 113-114 range. Quick question what does it mean when it says 113 +3 (just an example)

ARuiz9 · 10-04-2017, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OzzySS

i installed a turbo cam and was tuned when I still had LTs/cai a few years ago, made 478whp and would get 23mpg at 70mph, 21mpg at 80mph cruising on the highway. so it's not impossible to get an aggressive cam and maintain decent mileage, but you'd want a good tuner. my city mileage still sucked tho, probably worse than 12-14, I don't think there's a way around that.

This isn't my daily either but I would still like to have ok MPG, I can live with 14.

rjs1le · 10-06-2017, 05:39 PM

The 113+3 is the lobe separation angle or LSA, the +3 is the advance ground into the cam. The old gen 1 Chevy's did the same, they just didn't list it the same way. Usually when choosing a cam from comp cams or someone like that they just stated it was ground on a 110LSA with 4dgs ground into the cam, as most cams back then were installed straight up, but worked best installed 4dgs advance. They just ground the advance in to make it easier to install.

09-29-2017, 06:36 AM	#15
StevenBateman Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: May 2014 Location: Niagara Falls Posts: 732	I love my BTR Stage 4 cam. With my set up its very lopey at idle and the car shakes and wants to jump forward when you're sitting at a light. Might not be ideal for everyone, but I absolutely love it. Not to mention its pretty damn loud which is all part of the fun. You gotta remember though, it's not about the miles per gallon, its about the smiles per gallon __________________ "Scarlett" the Black Widow BTR Stage 4 Cam, FTI 3600 Stall Converter, GM 3.91 Gears, GPI Intake Mod V2, CAI Cold Air Intake, SLP 25% Underdrive Pulley, LS3 Conversion, PRC Ported/Polished Heads, Stainless Power Long Tubes w/off-road pipes, Borla Atak Cat-Back Exhaust, Tru Cool 40K 482rwhp/425rwtq, Built and tuned by Champion Motors

10-03-2017, 07:21 PM	#24
13SSCamaro Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: South Florida Posts: 254	I have the new TSP stage 3 cam. made 487 rwhp. I average 21.8mpg on the highway and about 17 city. I drive a lot. I have zero issues daily driving it. I absolutely love the looks and thumbs up i get. I have had people stop me on the street to ask about the mods. I love the lopey cam and if tuned right has minimal issues with drivability. __________________ 2013 SS M6, TSP Stage 3 231/246 cam kit, TSP Trunion upgrade, Cold Air Inductions CAI, VMAX PTB, TSP 1 7/8 Long tube headers and high flow cats, Corsa Xtreme ZL1 Catback exhaust, Elite E2-X Catch can, Trick Flow Gen-X 255 heads milled 0.025 and valve job, GPI rod mod and ported intake, ID850 injectors,ZL1 fuel pump, Flex sensor and E-85, Mantic 9000 and 1LE 3.91 diff 512rwhp/462rwtq

10-04-2017, 11:33 AM	#25
OzzySS Drives: 2013 2SS/1LE, 2004 Cavalier Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: jax, FL Posts: 1,344 View My Garage	i installed a turbo cam and was tuned when I still had LTs/cai a few years ago, made 478whp and would get 23mpg at 70mph, 21mpg at 80mph cruising on the highway. so it's not impossible to get an aggressive cam and maintain decent mileage, but you'd want a good tuner. my city mileage still sucked tho, probably worse than 12-14, I don't think there's a way around that. __________________ Build thread linked in the pic...

09-29-2017, 04:51 PM	#19
Sturgill_SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Independence, KY Posts: 518	stevenbateman, thinking about going with the Stage4 myself! Good choice I assume!?

09-29-2017, 05:44 PM	#21
Sturgill_SS Drives: 2010 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Independence, KY Posts: 518	That's what I'm looking for! I have all the supporting mods. 3.91's, underdrive pulley, etc.. I want a good lopey rough ride! how is the performance side of the cam?

10-04-2017, 03:38 PM	#26
ARuiz9 Drives: 2015 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Phoeniz, AZ Posts: 54 View My Garage	17 in the city? Really? I'm still trying to understand cam specs and I was told to stay in the 113-114 range. Quick question what does it mean when it says 113 +3 (just an example)

10-06-2017, 05:39 PM	#28
rjs1le Drives: 2014 2ss/rs/1le Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Nevada Posts: 61 View My Garage	The 113+3 is the lobe separation angle or LSA, the +3 is the advance ground into the cam. The old gen 1 Chevy's did the same, they just didn't list it the same way. Usually when choosing a cam from comp cams or someone like that they just stated it was ground on a 110LSA with 4dgs ground into the cam, as most cams back then were installed straight up, but worked best installed 4dgs advance. They just ground the advance in to make it easier to install.