FenwickHockey65's Great Thread of GM Knowledge - Page 336

FenwickHockey65 · 11-15-2017, 12:41 PM

http://www.tfltruck.com/2017/11/2019...haust-systems/

T1XX Sierra.

huggercamaro21 · 11-15-2017, 01:53 PM

From all I have heard from customers. They want updated power-trains, specifically the transmissions, bigger cabin, more tech features, rear HVAC. I am also hoping that the surround vision will make an appearance in the new trucks.

FenwickHockey65 · 11-15-2017, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Someone over at CorvetteForum stumbled across this somewhere:

Wanted to revisit this.

The full document the OP found this on was posted, and it's a North American engine production forecast cooked up by some industry analysis group. Which means it's completely subject to speculation.

However, there are some interesting tidbits in it. The OP incorrectly interpreted it first, the forecast lists predicted volume of production in 100000s, whereas he thought it meant chance of production. So if you saw a powertrain system listed at 000 (for example, the 4.2L TTV8 for the CT6 and Cadillac sports car), it's not that there's no chance for production, it's that those are just super low volume cars.

So anyways, here's what we can learn from it, and remember, none of this should be taken as 100% fact, plus it won't include engines built outside North America (IE 2.7L Duramax in Thailand). This is also a metric ****ton of data to sift through so I might miss things here or there....new stuff is bold, which is most of it.

Chevrolet Cruze (9CLC) - SOP in 2023, 1.35L I3, 2.0L I4
Chevrolet Malibu (9DSC) - SOP in 2021, 1.35L I3, 1.5L I4, 2.0L I4
Chevrolet Camaro (A2BC) - SOP in 2022, 2.0L I4, 2.7L I4, 6.2L V8
Chevrolet Corvette (Y2BC) - SOP in 2019, 4.2L DOHC V8, 5.5L DOHC V8, 6.2L OHV V8
Chevrolet Trax (9BYC) - SOP in 2020, 1.35L I3
Chevrolet Blazer (C1UC) - SOP in 2018, 3.6L
Chevrolet Blazer (8DUC) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L I4, 3.6L
Chevrolet Traverse (8DYC) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L I4, 3.6L V6
Chevrolet Colorado (32XC) - SOP in 2022, 2.5L, 3.6L V6
Chevrolet Silverado (T1XC) - SOP in 2018, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L OHV V8, 6.2L OHV V8, 6.6L Duramax
Chevrolet Tahoe (T1UC) - SOP in 2020, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L OHV V8, 6.2L OHV V8
Chevrolet Suburban (T1YC) - SOP in 2020, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L OHV V8, 6.2L OHV V8
Chevrolet Express (GMT-610) - Current model, 4.3L V6, 4.8L V8, 6.0L V8

Buick Encore (9BUB) - SOP in 2019, 1.35L I3
Buick Enclave (8DYB) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L, 3.6L V6

GMC Terrain (9CUG) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L
GMC Acadia (8DUG) - SOP in 2022, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
GMC Compact SUV (32UG) - SOP in 2022, 2.5L, 3.6L V6
GMC Canyon (32XG) - SOP in 2022, 2.5L, 3.6L V6
GMC Sierra (T1XG) - SOP in 2018, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L V8, 6.2L V8, 6.6L Duramax
GMC Yukon/Yukon XL (T1UG/T1YG) - SOP in 2020, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L V8, 6.2L V8
GMC Savana (GMT610) - Current model, 4.3L V6, 4.8L V8, 6.0L V8

Cadillac CT4 (A2SL/A2BL) - SOP in 2019, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
Cadillac CT5 (A2LL) - SOP in 2019, 2.0L, 3.6L V6, 6.2L V8
Cadillac CT6 (O1SL) - Current model, 2.0L, 3.0L V6, 3.6L V6, 4.2L V8
Cadillac Sports Car (Y2BL) - SOP in ?, 4.2L V8
Cadillac XT3 (D2UL) - SOP in 2021, 1.4L I3, 2.0L
Cadillac XT4 (E2UL) - SOP in 2018, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
2nd gen Cadillac XT4 (9CYL) - SOP in 2024, 1.8L, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
Cadillac XT5 (8DUL) - SOP in 2021, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
Cadillac XT6 (C1TL) - SOP in 2019, 3.0L V6, 3.6L V6
Cadillac Escalade (T1UL/T1YL) - SOP in 2020, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L V8, 6.2L V8

FenwickHockey65 · 11-15-2017, 10:01 PM

https://seekingalpha.com/article/412...l-y-competitor

GM future EV plans.

*DGthe3* · 11-15-2017, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

https://seekingalpha.com/article/412...l-y-competitor

GM future EV plans.

So with that, will they stop pretending that the Bolt is a crossover?

FenwickHockey65 · 11-21-2017, 02:19 PM

http://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc.../1121-gmc.html

Oookay.

*DGthe3* · 11-21-2017, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

http://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc.../1121-gmc.html

Oookay.

I saw the side graphic and first thought 'Coors?'

It is odd, but I like it more than their Desert Fox concept they also showed this week.

90503 · 11-21-2017, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FenwickHockey65

Wanted to revisit this.

The full document the OP found this on was posted, and it's a North American engine production forecast cooked up by some industry analysis group. Which means it's completely subject to speculation.

However, there are some interesting tidbits in it. The OP incorrectly interpreted it first, the forecast lists predicted volume of production in 100000s, whereas he thought it meant chance of production. So if you saw a powertrain system listed at 000 (for example, the 4.2L TTV8 for the CT6 and Cadillac sports car), it's not that there's no chance for production, it's that those are just super low volume cars.

So anyways, here's what we can learn from it, and remember, none of this should be taken as 100% fact, plus it won't include engines built outside North America (IE 2.7L Duramax in Thailand). This is also a metric ****ton of data to sift through so I might miss things here or there....new stuff is bold, which is most of it.

Chevrolet Cruze (9CLC) - SOP in 2023, 1.35L I3, 2.0L I4
Chevrolet Malibu (9DSC) - SOP in 2021, 1.35L I3, 1.5L I4, 2.0L I4
Chevrolet Camaro (A2BC) - SOP in 2022, 2.0L I4, 2.7L I4, 6.2L V8
Chevrolet Corvette (Y2BC) - SOP in 2019, 4.2L DOHC V8, 5.5L DOHC V8, 6.2L OHV V8
Chevrolet Trax (9BYC) - SOP in 2020, 1.35L I3
Chevrolet Blazer (C1UC) - SOP in 2018, 3.6L
Chevrolet Blazer (8DUC) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L I4, 3.6L
Chevrolet Traverse (8DYC) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L I4, 3.6L V6
Chevrolet Colorado (32XC) - SOP in 2022, 2.5L, 3.6L V6
Chevrolet Silverado (T1XC) - SOP in 2018, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L OHV V8, 6.2L OHV V8, 6.6L Duramax
Chevrolet Tahoe (T1UC) - SOP in 2020, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L OHV V8, 6.2L OHV V8
Chevrolet Suburban (T1YC) - SOP in 2020, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L OHV V8, 6.2L OHV V8
Chevrolet Express (GMT-610) - Current model, 4.3L V6, 4.8L V8, 6.0L V8

Buick Encore (9BUB) - SOP in 2019, 1.35L I3
Buick Enclave (8DYB) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L, 3.6L V6

GMC Terrain (9CUG) - SOP in 2023, 2.0L
GMC Acadia (8DUG) - SOP in 2022, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
GMC Compact SUV (32UG) - SOP in 2022, 2.5L, 3.6L V6
GMC Canyon (32XG) - SOP in 2022, 2.5L, 3.6L V6
GMC Sierra (T1XG) - SOP in 2018, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L V8, 6.2L V8, 6.6L Duramax
GMC Yukon/Yukon XL (T1UG/T1YG) - SOP in 2020, 2.7L DOHC I4, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L V8, 6.2L V8
GMC Savana (GMT610) - Current model, 4.3L V6, 4.8L V8, 6.0L V8

Cadillac CT4 (A2SL/A2BL) - SOP in 2019, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
Cadillac CT5 (A2LL) - SOP in 2019, 2.0L, 3.6L V6, 6.2L V8
Cadillac CT6 (O1SL) - Current model, 2.0L, 3.0L V6, 3.6L V6, 4.2L V8
Cadillac Sports Car (Y2BL) - SOP in ?, 4.2L V8
Cadillac XT3 (D2UL) - SOP in 2021, 1.4L I3, 2.0L
Cadillac XT4 (E2UL) - SOP in 2018, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
2nd gen Cadillac XT4 (9CYL) - SOP in 2024, 1.8L, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
Cadillac XT5 (8DUL) - SOP in 2021, 2.0L, 3.6L V6
Cadillac XT6 (C1TL) - SOP in 2019, 3.0L V6, 3.6L V6
Cadillac Escalade (T1UL/T1YL) - SOP in 2020, 3.0L DOHC V6, 5.3L V8, 6.2L V8

Hmmm...I see Impala is not listed....figures,...lol...I just bought a '17...

FenwickHockey65 · 11-21-2017, 05:08 PM

I think Impala was listed until 2021ish...

ChefBorOzzy · 11-21-2017, 06:06 PM

2.7L I4? 1.35L I3? Hmmm...

*DGthe3* · 11-21-2017, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

2.7L I4? 1.35L I3? Hmmm...

I almost wonder if the 2.7L is a diesel. It's showing up in the trucks as well as the Camaro. And as a diesel, it wouldn't have to rev very fast which would be a bit of a problem with a 4 cylinder that big.

The little I3 makes a certain amount of sense compared to the same size 4 cylinder. The engine can be made a lot lighter, and the parts are easier to share.

ChefBorOzzy · 11-21-2017, 08:28 PM

Maybe the 2.7 is a large 4 banger hybrid.

FenwickHockey65 · 11-21-2017, 08:59 PM

I believe the 3.0L V6 listed under the T1XXs is a diesel. The supposed 2.7L I4 will be a turbo.

Again though, this could all be a total crock of ****. We'll have a better idea of how accurate it is when the first products on that list (Silverado/Sierra) debut.

RLHMARINES · 11-22-2017, 10:40 AM

The 3.0L 6 cylinder is showing to be an inline 6 and not a V6 on the forcasted engine chart but it also shows a 4.3L V6 with 36 valves, both on this new engine series CSS by GM. The 3.0L 6 is thought to be the new Silverado Diesel designed with help from Europe but destined to built in the states.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rel-4q2017.pdf

11-15-2017, 12:41 PM	#4691
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	http://www.tfltruck.com/2017/11/2019...haust-systems/ T1XX Sierra. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued) Last edited by FenwickHockey65; 11-15-2017 at 04:13 PM.

11-15-2017, 01:53 PM	#4692
huggercamaro21 Sales Manager for Chevy Drives: Tahoe RST Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 1,313	From all I have heard from customers. They want updated power-trains, specifically the transmissions, bigger cabin, more tech features, rear HVAC. I am also hoping that the surround vision will make an appearance in the new trucks. __________________ 2016 2SS Nightfall Grey Metallic, Adrenaline Red interior, auto, NPP, MRC, and Nav. Killed 06/23/2016 #2 2016 Red Hot 2SS, A8, NPP, MRC, Nav, and Sunroof. VIN #115750

11-15-2017, 10:01 PM	#4694
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	https://seekingalpha.com/article/412...l-y-competitor GM future EV plans. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

11-21-2017, 02:19 PM	#4696
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	http://media.gmc.com/media/us/en/gmc.../1121-gmc.html Oookay. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

11-21-2017, 05:08 PM	#4699
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	I think Impala was listed until 2021ish... __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

11-21-2017, 06:06 PM	#4700
ChefBorOzzy Drives: 2016 F150 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,196	2.7L I4? 1.35L I3? Hmmm...

11-21-2017, 08:28 PM	#4702
ChefBorOzzy Drives: 2016 F150 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,196	Maybe the 2.7 is a large 4 banger hybrid.

11-21-2017, 08:59 PM	#4703
FenwickHockey65 General Motors Aficionado Drives: 2023 GMC Canyon, 2020 Colorado Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 37,371 View My Garage	I believe the 3.0L V6 listed under the T1XXs is a diesel. The supposed 2.7L I4 will be a turbo. Again though, this could all be a total crock of ****. We'll have a better idea of how accurate it is when the first products on that list (Silverado/Sierra) debut. __________________ 2023 GMC Canyon Elevation 2020 Chevrolet Colorado W/T Extended Cab (State-issued)

11-22-2017, 10:40 AM	#4704
RLHMARINES 1st Civ. Div. Drives: Camaroless for now...RIP "Big SexZ" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Savannah, Ga Posts: 2,726	The 3.0L 6 cylinder is showing to be an inline 6 and not a V6 on the forcasted engine chart but it also shows a 4.3L V6 with 36 valves, both on this new engine series CSS by GM. The 3.0L 6 is thought to be the new Silverado Diesel designed with help from Europe but destined to built in the states. https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...rel-4q2017.pdf __________________ Swift....Silent....Deadly

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