4 Cylinder in a Camaro... - Page 3

airjonny · 05-19-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bassment

Everyone saying they'll choose a T4 over a V6 and mod it out, why not just get a V6 and turbo it? Is it just because it's a lot more expensive to turbo than it is to add some bolt-ons?

It's way more expensive. You probably get more power, but there will be more issues with it. At that point, you're better off just going with the v8.

classicrockr · 05-19-2015, 05:04 PM

And what kind of mileage do we think the 4 will get?

PoorMansCamaro · 05-19-2015, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by classicrockr

And what kind of mileage do we think the 4 will get?

30

ssrs2lt · 05-19-2015, 05:33 PM

Plus you won't need premium like the stang 4 cylinder..

laborsmith · 05-19-2015, 05:41 PM

1) Are you certain about not needing premium fuel?

2) Personally, I would not use regular in a forced induction engine. Think about it.

I do not recall what the ATS 2.0 requires, and Cadillac may say regular fuel will work, but since Chevy engineering recommends using premium in the turbocharged Cruze in summer heat conditions I would mistrust Cadillac engineers saying using regular is ok.

Laborsmith

Ragnar · 05-19-2015, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by airjonny

Thanks. I was wondering because I've seen some VXR's put out some serious power with some bolt ons and a tune.

Just trying to understand. Your buying a new car, modding it, and voiding the warranty. Or you could have gotten more power with the other stock engines

IOMike · 05-19-2015, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by laborsmith

1) Are you certain about not needing premium fuel?

2) Personally, I would not use regular in a forced induction engine. Think about it.

I do not recall what the ATS 2.0 requires, and Cadillac may say regular fuel will work, but since Chevy engineering recommends using premium in the turbocharged Cruze in summer heat conditions I would mistrust Cadillac engineers saying using regular is ok.

Laborsmith

The new gen LTG is supposed to run off 87, but iirc that's in the Malibu which is rated at only 259hp

ssrs2lt · 05-19-2015, 06:25 PM

Now I'm not sure ..

Jason@JacFab · 05-19-2015, 06:27 PM

I'll just leave this here...

(If you couldn't see the time, it was 12.06, couldn't read the mph though)

This one ATS in particular is leaning towards the heavily modded side, but I'm not 100% sure on what all has been changed. Custom header, different turbo, catless downpipe, different intercooler, tune.

Without throwing a whole lot of money at the ATS 2.0t, there's guys running mid 12s. That's pretty impressive to me.

I wasn't really planning on getting a 6th gen, and it may sound blasphemous, but I'm seriously considering the 4 cyl and modding the hell out of it.

nancygrl · 05-19-2015, 06:28 PM

270hp and 295 lb/ft torque is almost as much as a 4th gen LT1. (285hp/325lb/ft). That's not too shabby out of a 4 cyl. I hope all 3 versions do really well. Don't know if a 6th gen is in my future plans....too soon to tell...Right now I'm sticking with my 1LE

fbodfather · 05-19-2015, 07:57 PM

the beauty of this is that you have engine choices. No one is demanding that anyone buy a 4 cylinder - but there IS a market for the 4 cylinder.

And yes, CAFE is a consideration.

Lastly - no one said we would not offer a 4 cylinder in a Camaro.

90503 · 05-19-2015, 09:35 PM

This 4cyl will breathe new life into the Camaro....5th Gen V-6 sales were about 70-75% of Camaro sales....I don't think that would have continued into the 6thGen...Positioning the v-6 as mid-level or upgrade is a smart move....

The 4cyl will be the economy model....perhaps not much by mileage but it will be better than the 6....and I tell you this, turbos are very popular with younger buyers, and you bet they will be modded. And you can't judge anyone for spending mod-money...Probably more modded SSs that could have just as easily bought a ZL-1 for the same money, than there will me modded 4 bangers....

The 4 cyl is more proof that Camaro offers many, many choices and I'll think we'll see more to come....Nothing has been ruled out in the V-8 department, and the 4cyl is no threat to anything in the line-up....

Angrybird 12 · 05-19-2015, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Twisty

I don't think it ever did, but the Mustang did in it's puny years.

That's ok tho, this V4 Camaro is going to be eating well

[edit] Nope, you're correct, it did in 82... Check out that 0-60 time

Wait, why are some people calling it a V4?

*DGthe3* · 05-19-2015, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

Wait, why are some people calling it a V4?

Because some people are so used to saying/typing V6, V8, V10, and V12 for engines that they forget the V means there are two banks of cylinders with a V-type arrangement?

05-19-2015, 05:33 PM	#32
ssrs2lt Drives: too many Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: oh va pa ma tx Posts: 3,046	Plus you won't need premium like the stang 4 cylinder.. __________________

05-19-2015, 06:25 PM	#36
ssrs2lt Drives: too many Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: oh va pa ma tx Posts: 3,046	Now I'm not sure .. __________________

05-19-2015, 06:27 PM	#37
Jason@JacFab Drives: 2016 1LT RS Camaro; 72 Chevelle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Central Point, OR Posts: 5,688 View My Garage	I'll just leave this here... (If you couldn't see the time, it was 12.06, couldn't read the mph though) This one ATS in particular is leaning towards the heavily modded side, but I'm not 100% sure on what all has been changed. Custom header, different turbo, catless downpipe, different intercooler, tune. Without throwing a whole lot of money at the ATS 2.0t, there's guys running mid 12s. That's pretty impressive to me. I wasn't really planning on getting a 6th gen, and it may sound blasphemous, but I'm seriously considering the 4 cyl and modding the hell out of it. Last edited by Jason@JacFab; 05-20-2015 at 12:51 AM.

05-19-2015, 07:57 PM	#39
fbodfather Drives: Camaros................ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seven Fields, PA (Pittsburgh) Posts: 4,523	the beauty of this is that you have engine choices. No one is demanding that anyone buy a 4 cylinder - but there IS a market for the 4 cylinder. And yes, CAFE is a consideration. Lastly - no one said we would not offer a 4 cylinder in a Camaro. __________________

05-19-2015, 05:04 PM	#30
classicrockr Pills are for Pansies Drives: 2023 2SS Red Hot Vert Camaro Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Citrus Springs FL Posts: 1,296	And what kind of mileage do we think the 4 will get?

05-19-2015, 05:41 PM	#33
laborsmith Drives: 1969 Corvair, 2018 Camaro T4 RS Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Detroit Metropolitan Area Posts: 2,881	1) Are you certain about not needing premium fuel? 2) Personally, I would not use regular in a forced induction engine. Think about it. I do not recall what the ATS 2.0 requires, and Cadillac may say regular fuel will work, but since Chevy engineering recommends using premium in the turbocharged Cruze in summer heat conditions I would mistrust Cadillac engineers saying using regular is ok. Laborsmith

05-19-2015, 06:28 PM	#38
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	270hp and 295 lb/ft torque is almost as much as a 4th gen LT1. (285hp/325lb/ft). That's not too shabby out of a 4 cyl. I hope all 3 versions do really well. Don't know if a 6th gen is in my future plans....too soon to tell...Right now I'm sticking with my 1LE

05-19-2015, 09:35 PM	#40
90503 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Torrance Posts: 14,426	This 4cyl will breathe new life into the Camaro....5th Gen V-6 sales were about 70-75% of Camaro sales....I don't think that would have continued into the 6thGen...Positioning the v-6 as mid-level or upgrade is a smart move.... The 4cyl will be the economy model....perhaps not much by mileage but it will be better than the 6....and I tell you this, turbos are very popular with younger buyers, and you bet they will be modded. And you can't judge anyone for spending mod-money...Probably more modded SSs that could have just as easily bought a ZL-1 for the same money, than there will me modded 4 bangers.... The 4 cyl is more proof that Camaro offers many, many choices and I'll think we'll see more to come....Nothing has been ruled out in the V-8 department, and the 4cyl is no threat to anything in the line-up....

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