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Originally Posted by KMPrenger

That's good food for thought.

I agree with you 100% that performance-wise, the LGX does not destroy the LFX. Put the LGX in the current 5th gen Camaro as it is, and the performance difference will be negligible. But its a healthy 12HP increase none the less.

The 5th gen V6 automatics trap somewhere around 14.4 - 14.6 in magazine testing, while the fastest manual V6 I've seen in magazine testing is a 14.2 (0 - 60 was 5.6 in that test also)

So that tells me that due to mostly weight alone (gearing is the same I believe), the Cadillac ATS shaved up to a few tenths in 0 - 60 and up to half a second in the quarter mile compared to the Camaro V6.

I'm still holding out for a stock V6 quarter mile time somewhere between 13.5 (extreme low end) to a 13.8 (high end) due to the V6 Camaro likely weighing a bit less than the ATS, having more HP than the ones shown in your testing above, and also having the 8 speed. I think all of this should be good for an additional .2 to .4 of a second in the 1/4 mile.

I'd really love to see it at least match the 13.7 the 2011 Mustang V6 PP tested at in Motortrend but I think it depends on how well the V6 pulls through the gears with its 8 speed auto.

I don't think the turbo 4 will be far behind, as it will likely weigh somewhere between 50 - 100 pounds less than the V6. I see it being closer in 0 - 60 than 1/4 mile but I could be wrong.

Keep in mind the 8 speed auto will add some flexibility and gearing and will likely improve Camaro over what you see for the ATS. Manual trans not so much.