11-13-2017, 03:22 PM | #1 |
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Bob Lutz Fires ICBM
Bob Lutz Fires an ICBM nuclear warhead across Chevy's bow.
http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/08/...-pony-car-war/ |
11-13-2017, 03:26 PM | #2 |
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I agree, I’ve met Bob Lutz and had a conversation with him at NADA, as far as I’m concerned, he’s the smartest man in the car business right now…..
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11-13-2017, 03:28 PM | #3 |
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Don't really agree with him. I think the visibility comment on every review just totally turned people off. When a car needs to be owned to appreciated you can't get the sales.
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11-13-2017, 03:39 PM | #4 |
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I really don't get what's so bad about the visibility on the Camaro? I'm a really short individual and I can see perfectly at all angles in the car. I work at a Ford dealership, and driving the Mustang day to day, it's not SIGNIFICANTLY better.
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11-13-2017, 04:05 PM | #5 |
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11-13-2017, 04:07 PM | #6 |
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6th gen looks too much like the 5th gen?? Yet the mustang looks like a Ford Fusion and that’s ok. Personally I preferred the mustangs when they looked like the ford escort.
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11-13-2017, 04:08 PM | #7 |
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11-13-2017, 04:13 PM | #8 |
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Yep, older article - can't seem to find the post on here. Lutz is a genius of auto design. He was the man that awoke General Motors suppressed design talent...he also says things without thinking, first - which is part of why he's a genius.
Nevertheless...geniuses don't speak gospel. Not planning to hang any awards around the pony's neck, just yet. It wasn't the Mustang that won "Hottest Coupe" at SEMA 2017. |
11-13-2017, 04:14 PM | #9 |
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Firstly, what I'll say below is predicated on the fact that it doesn't matter who "wins" ...what are they winning? more sales = winning??? I think I've made my point several times on why that is simply dumb. But i'll play along only to say:
IDK, I get a ton of attention in my 1LE, so seems to me folks like the looks...A LOT! Too bad Mustang is actually losing in sales though... but maybe this Bob Lutz guy doesn't understand the difference between a retail sale and a fleet sale???
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11-13-2017, 04:41 PM | #10 |
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From what i have gathered in some recent research from starting a car club #northernmusclealliance and scouring different forums for mustangs and challengers we have the lowest number of members of all of them but the most active of all of them.
I really do think people that buy camaros care more about the car and less about the reviews or opinions. Bigger car audience or better car audience? |
11-13-2017, 04:43 PM | #11 |
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I don’t know man, the 6th gen looks nothing like the 5th gen to me. One of the reasons I held off the 5th gen was to see where they’d go with the new style. They knocked out of the park.
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11-13-2017, 04:45 PM | #12 |
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Does this genius Lutz think the first and second gen Camaros were poorly designed also?....Camaro never outsold Mustang until 1977....After all, everyone in hind-sight, and post-retirement can self-proclaim expert status...How else could you justify starting your own consulting firm?
Yeah, the Mustang is so much better...lol... |
11-13-2017, 05:05 PM | #13 |
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Mustang has almost always outsold the Camaro. It’s softer and somewhat of a chick car. And more for those who don’t know much or care much about cars. Which is the majority of the country.
Besides, you can’t get a moonroof on the Mustang lol |
11-13-2017, 05:18 PM | #14 |
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The guy that bombed the GTO. Although his points are valid
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