The Turbo 4 Camaro (Our First Drive Review) - Page 2

SpeedIsLife · 03-11-2016, 11:05 AM

I really hope dealers will take advantage of the lower price of entry this is going to bring and NOT flood the markets with loaded 2LT turbo 4 cars...kind of negates the lower price of entry when you load it up to $30,000

If dealers are smart they'll keep 3-4 1LT Turbo 4's, manuals and autos, on the lot.

SuperSound · 03-11-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mkorgan

Nice article. Enjoyed the read and thanks for posting.

A couple thoughts..."You feel you are going faster than you are", and you can get to 60 as fast as a tank with a big cast iron block that is 45 years old. I ask, are these good things?

And lastly, no one is going to take this car to a HPD event in its current form. Unlike the SS, 1LE, and Z cars that can go from dealership to track with only a stop for gas on the way....I can't imagine anyone taking this car to the track without serious mod's to at least make sure you can get out of the way of the cars passing you. Let's pull back on the reigns with the "first of the best" stuff. I would not call this a performance car regardless of the badge on the car or the T next to the 2.0.

I believe you can get the braking/cooling package like the LGX cars, but don't quote me. That would definitely give you what's need to make a track day. The car would do well in AutoX for it's class I'm sure. There's nothing about sub 6 second 0-60 and low 14 sec 1/4 passes that is pedestrian. Let's not forget that was the performance of Mustang GTs not even 10 years ago. Maybe not performance to you, but there are many who will be in the market for these turbo cars.

Oh and some people love to romance about cars from the 60's and 70's as being fast. So the reference is indeed good. Gives perspective that this is not the old "Iron Duke" 4 cylinder of yesteryear.

TSloper · 03-11-2016, 11:13 AM

The 4 cylinder will shine in the aftermarket. In a couple of years stock V8s will be getting their butts handed to them by modded 4 cylinders.

SpeedIsLife · 03-11-2016, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

I believe you can get the braking/cooling package like the LGX cars, but don't quote me. That would definitely give you what's need to make a track day. The car would do well in AutoX for it's class I'm sure. There's nothing about sub 6 second 0-60 and low 14 sec 1/4 passes that is pedestrian. Let's not forget that was the performance of Mustang GTs not even 10 years ago. Maybe not performance to you, but there are many who will be in the market for these turbo cars.

Oh and some people love to romance about cars from the 60's and 70's as being fast. So the reference is indeed good. Gives perspective that this is not the old "Iron Duke" 4 cylinder of yesteryear.

You can add the HD Brake and Cooling to a turbo 4, but it requires you to add on the RS package.

1LT T4+RS+HD Cooling/Brake=$29,130 MSRP.

That's about the bottom basement "track turbo 4" as you can get.

SuperSound · 03-11-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

You can add the HD Brake and Cooling to a turbo 4, but it requires you to add on the RS package.

1LT T4+RS+HD Cooling/Brake=$29,130 MSRP.

That's about the bottom basement "track turbo 4" as you can get.

Yep makes since, need bigger wheels to fit the 4 pots. Course you could source the brakes and cooling parts, but then would probably end up spending the same. Hopefully Al's teaser about not forgetting the 2.0T guys will turn up a performance package like the 1LE for the LGX.

bigdonut · 03-11-2016, 11:31 AM

Thanks for the review! To me, it's the Turbo 4 or the V8; the V6 doesn't seem that appealing anymore.

SuperSound · 03-11-2016, 11:33 AM

Found this video from ChrisFrez in another thread. A lap in the 2.0T.

https://youtu.be/L3Sr9y27AyQ

SPARTAN sui · 03-11-2016, 11:35 AM

Great read! Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm happy to see a turbo 4 in this gen of Camaro. I can't wait to see and hear one in person.

90503 · 03-11-2016, 11:39 AM

These cars will get modded by the "Fast and Furious" crowd like you've never seen....Should be interesting to see....

*Mr. Wyndham* · 03-11-2016, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mkorgan

Nice article. Enjoyed the read and thanks for posting.

A couple thoughts..."You feel you are going faster than you are", and you can get to 60 as fast as a tank with a big cast iron block that is 45 years old. I ask, are these good things?

And lastly, no one is going to take this car to a HPD event in its current form. Unlike the SS, 1LE, and Z cars that can go from dealership to track with only a stop for gas on the way....I can't imagine anyone taking this car to the track without serious mod's to at least make sure you can get out of the way of the cars passing you. Let's pull back on the reigns with the "first of the best" stuff. I would not call this a performance car regardless of the badge on the car or the T next to the 2.0.

I've been to HPDEs where people bring Ford Focuses, mid-2000s Mustangs, and base-model Audis...People will bring all sorts of stuff out. It's not about the car as much as it is the experience, and what you learn while you're there. Even in base form, this car (while it won't be winning any races, or generating hero times) is an exceptionally well-balanced car that can be flung around a track.

So, perhaps I should clarify that while the car isn't built "for the track", like an SS, or 1LE. The Camaro team made sure that the balance was right, and the driving feel was engaging and fun...the result is a car that is very capable on the track. VERY capable!

I remember a while back, Al was explaining that there is no "base model" car this time around. No boring car to simply pay the bills. They're all just different levels of performance...and I have to say he's spot on.

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Originally Posted by SuperSound

Found this video from ChrisFrez in another thread. A lap in the 2.0T.

https://youtu.be/L3Sr9y27AyQ

Great video! Thanks for posting!

I was hoping to provide something similar....but the SD card for my GoPro was left 1800 miles away....

90503 · 03-11-2016, 11:52 AM

Looks like a fun car...I'm sure they'll be very popular for tracking...

WhyUMad1LE · 03-11-2016, 12:18 PM

This 2.0T is a bargain IMO.. wouldn't mind if it was closer to 3000 lbs though.

KaBoom1701 · 03-11-2016, 01:10 PM

With the weight being way down I'd like to see this 4 bagger turbo with some 1LE suspension and a larger turbo...say 400-500hp....would make for a interesting track car.

nancygrl · 03-11-2016, 01:31 PM

Can't wait for these turbo 4's to start showing up on the lots so I can try them out.

03-11-2016, 11:33 AM	#21
SuperSound Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Eastern NC Posts: 5,063 View My Garage	Found this video from ChrisFrez in another thread. A lap in the 2.0T. https://youtu.be/L3Sr9y27AyQ __________________ Current: '17 2SS Hyper Blue, A8, MRC, NPP Past: '99 SS Camaro A4, '73 Camaro 383 A3 "Voices in your head are not considered insider information." 3800 Status - 6/16/16 (Built!) 6000 status - 6/29/16 (Delivered!)

03-11-2016, 11:35 AM	#22
SPARTAN sui PC Technician Drives: 2016 Hyper Blue 2SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,161	Great read! Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm happy to see a turbo 4 in this gen of Camaro. I can't wait to see and hear one in person. __________________

03-11-2016, 01:10 PM	#27
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	With the weight being way down I'd like to see this 4 bagger turbo with some 1LE suspension and a larger turbo...say 400-500hp....would make for a interesting track car. __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

03-11-2016, 11:05 AM	#15
SpeedIsLife Drives: Current Camaro-less Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Oregon Posts: 3,242	I really hope dealers will take advantage of the lower price of entry this is going to bring and NOT flood the markets with loaded 2LT turbo 4 cars...kind of negates the lower price of entry when you load it up to $30,000 If dealers are smart they'll keep 3-4 1LT Turbo 4's, manuals and autos, on the lot.

03-11-2016, 11:13 AM	#17
TSloper Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mount Dora, FL Posts: 779	The 4 cylinder will shine in the aftermarket. In a couple of years stock V8s will be getting their butts handed to them by modded 4 cylinders.

03-11-2016, 11:31 AM	#20
bigdonut Drives: Nothing Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 148	Thanks for the review! To me, it's the Turbo 4 or the V8; the V6 doesn't seem that appealing anymore.

03-11-2016, 12:18 PM	#26
WhyUMad1LE Drives: 17 SS 1LE Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 1,920	This 2.0T is a bargain IMO.. wouldn't mind if it was closer to 3000 lbs though.

03-11-2016, 01:31 PM	#28
nancygrl 雪の玉 Drives: '22 Z71 RST Silverado Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: South Posts: 3,415	Can't wait for these turbo 4's to start showing up on the lots so I can try them out.

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