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bluecavyrider · 04-03-2014, 02:33 PM

simple question .. i have a 2010 LS3 SS .. crap performance ,SHIFTING is horrible, i love it but hate it .. i wanna upgrade

DO i get a ZL1 or Modify my SS to

hognutz · 04-03-2014, 02:36 PM

if you can get out fo the SS without jsut losing your a$$ I say get the Zl1. if you going to take a bath just buy the 1le suspension parts and put a blower on the SS.

the resale on a modded SS just gets worse and worse though.

ricky_ZL1 · 04-03-2014, 02:47 PM

ZL1

few more mods and the ss supercharged won't be the same beast. Plust look at the front end man. !! woo hooo.

BaylorCamaro · 04-03-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hognutz

if you can get out fo the SS without jsut losing your a$$ I say get the Zl1. if you going to take a bath just buy the 1le suspension parts and put a blower on the SS.

the resale on a modded SS just gets worse and worse though.

Completely agree. You have to do what makes the most sense financially. Money not being an issue, get a ZL1 and mod it

Depends what your ultimate goal is. If it is mainly power, then you can mod your SS to go beyond what a stock ZL1 is, and add the 1LE suspension and it will handle pretty good. BUT if you'd be happy with a stock ZL1 you will have a more powerful car with a warranty.

Do what you can afford.

2012-1822 · 04-03-2014, 02:54 PM

Probably not getting an objective opinion on the ZL1 forum, but I agree with the ones that said if money is no issue then get the ZL1.

HDRDTD · 04-03-2014, 03:10 PM

I can tell you that the SS and the ZL1 are two completely different cars. The ZL1 is MUCH more than just more power.

I started out with a 2011 2SS/RS convertible and moved up to the ZL1 convertible when it came out, so I have had both cars.

You can certainly spend money modding the SS to get more power, but remember you'll never recover that money if/when you sell the car, AND as you know, it will no longer be covered by warranty for the most part.

The ZL1 on the other hand, will give you the power you seek, along with everything else the ZL1 has going for it, from the transmission/shifter to the mag ride, etc, etc all covered by the GM warranty.

But the ZL1 is not cheap by any stroke of the imagination, from the cost of the car itself, to the gas and tires it will consume.

Pocketbook aside, ZL1 wins every time.

954camaro · 04-03-2014, 03:12 PM

Plus you get that sweet mag control ride that you really can't get on the ss

Mwalterhouse · 04-03-2014, 03:13 PM

I have a modded SS and if I were in the position I would go for the ZL1 hands down.

alssiri · 04-03-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HDRDTD

I can tell you that the SS and the ZL1 are two completely different cars. The ZL1 is MUCH more than just more power.

I started out with a 2011 2SS/RS convertible and moved up to the ZL1 convertible when it came out, so I have had both cars.

You can certainly spend money modding the SS to get more power, but remember you'll never recover that money if/when you sell the car, AND as you know, it will no longer be covered by warranty for the most part.

The ZL1 on the other hand, will give you the power you seek, along with everything else the ZL1 has going for it, from the transmission/shifter to the mag ride, etc, etc all covered by the GM warranty.

But the ZL1 is not cheap by any stroke of the imagination, from the cost of the car itself, to the gas and tires it will consume.

Pocketbook aside, ZL1 wins every time.

Will said

I have 2010 SS LS3 with a MagnaCharger & all the bolt on making 635rwhp & 2012 ZL1 & believe me it is a totally different car to drive.

Ahmad

Emvici · 04-03-2014, 03:29 PM

Is the SS Motor the same as the ZL1 motor minus the supercharger?. I know the transmission is entirely different right?, The SS has the 6.2 liter same as the ZL1 ?.

45thAnniversary2SS · 04-03-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Emvici

Is the SS Motor the same as the ZL1 motor minus the supercharger?. I know the transmission is entirely different right?, The SS has the 6.2 liter same as the ZL1 ?.

ZL1 has the LSA.

LSAs are built to be 20% stronger than the LS3 short-block, according to GM, and even have hypereutectic pistons with oil-spray cooling to handle the pushing power.

The heads on the LSA are similar to the LS3 heads except that they were slightly redesigned to aid in mix the air/fuel being pumped in by the supercharger.

L99-wet sump with cast crank, LS3-dry sump with forged crank, LSA-forged crank
LS3-no piston oil squirters, LSA-piston oil squirters
LS3-10.7 CR, LSA-9.1 CR

Old thread outlining differences:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44276

Emvici · 04-03-2014, 03:47 PM

thank you

Chief Bob · 04-03-2014, 04:14 PM

I had a 2010 SS and upgraded to a Zl1 and they are completely different in many ways! Let your budget be your guide but they are not the same car and it is under warrenty by GM.

Travis104 · 04-03-2014, 04:57 PM

I have also had both. I had a 2012 2SS/RS/45th anniversary with full bolt ons and traded it for a 2013 ZL1. The cars are night and day, even compared to my SS with bolt ons. From a resale and warranty standpoint, the ZL1 with win, but if you just want straight line performance without the mag ride then maybe upgrading your SS is the way to go. I like the twisties as well as straight line, so with everything considered, the ZL1 is a great all round car.

04-03-2014, 02:33 PM	#1
bluecavyrider Drives: Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: QA Posts: 10	ZL1 or supercharged SS simple question .. i have a 2010 LS3 SS .. crap performance ,SHIFTING is horrible, i love it but hate it .. i wanna upgrade DO i get a ZL1 or Modify my SS to

04-03-2014, 02:36 PM	#2
hognutz Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: tangent or Posts: 2,984	if you can get out fo the SS without jsut losing your a$$ I say get the Zl1. if you going to take a bath just buy the 1le suspension parts and put a blower on the SS. the resale on a modded SS just gets worse and worse though. __________________ shopping for 2017+1le or zl1 2009 CTS-V -sold 2015 Hellcat-sold 2013 ZL1 -sold 2007 Z06- sold 2014 Chrysler 300 2011 Duramax 8" lift, deleted tuned

04-03-2014, 02:54 PM	#5
2012-1822 Drives: Black ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: City of Champions, Alabama Posts: 3,698	Probably not getting an objective opinion on the ZL1 forum, but I agree with the ones that said if money is no issue then get the ZL1. __________________ Check out Alabama Camaros, for Camaro enthusiasts all around Alabama https://www.facebook.com/groups/1739...group_activity

04-03-2014, 03:12 PM	#7
954camaro Drives: Camaro SS/RS inferno red interior Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Pompano Beach FL Posts: 817 View My Garage	Plus you get that sweet mag control ride that you really can't get on the ss __________________ SoFlo Muscle Car Group Miami/Broward

04-03-2014, 04:14 PM	#13
Chief Bob Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 SIM CTF Car M6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Taylor, MI Posts: 883	I had a 2010 SS and upgraded to a Zl1 and they are completely different in many ways! Let your budget be your guide but they are not the same car and it is under warrenty by GM. __________________ 2012 ZL1,CTF Car, SIM MN6, Polished Wheels,The Rare Flat Black Insert. Proud member of the unofficial Camaro5 "Rodgers Chevrolet Fan Club"

04-03-2014, 02:47 PM	#3
ricky_ZL1 Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Mexia Tx Posts: 89	ZL1 few more mods and the ss supercharged won't be the same beast. Plust look at the front end man. !! woo hooo.

04-03-2014, 03:10 PM	#6
HDRDTD Drives: 2013 Triple Black ZL1 Vert M6 ECF Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Trenton, Michigan Posts: 7,047	I can tell you that the SS and the ZL1 are two completely different cars. The ZL1 is MUCH more than just more power. I started out with a 2011 2SS/RS convertible and moved up to the ZL1 convertible when it came out, so I have had both cars. You can certainly spend money modding the SS to get more power, but remember you'll never recover that money if/when you sell the car, AND as you know, it will no longer be covered by warranty for the most part. The ZL1 on the other hand, will give you the power you seek, along with everything else the ZL1 has going for it, from the transmission/shifter to the mag ride, etc, etc all covered by the GM warranty. But the ZL1 is not cheap by any stroke of the imagination, from the cost of the car itself, to the gas and tires it will consume. Pocketbook aside, ZL1 wins every time.

04-03-2014, 03:13 PM	#8
Mwalterhouse Drives: 2010 Camaro SS/RS LS3 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan Posts: 1,088 View My Garage	I have a modded SS and if I were in the position I would go for the ZL1 hands down.

04-03-2014, 03:29 PM	#10
Emvici Drives: 2014 ZL1 White Convertible Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: St Pete Fl Posts: 682	Is the SS Motor the same as the ZL1 motor minus the supercharger?. I know the transmission is entirely different right?, The SS has the 6.2 liter same as the ZL1 ?.

04-03-2014, 03:47 PM	#12
Emvici Drives: 2014 ZL1 White Convertible Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: St Pete Fl Posts: 682	thank you

04-03-2014, 04:57 PM	#14
Travis104 Drives: 2014 ZL1 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 591	I have also had both. I had a 2012 2SS/RS/45th anniversary with full bolt ons and traded it for a 2013 ZL1. The cars are night and day, even compared to my SS with bolt ons. From a resale and warranty standpoint, the ZL1 with win, but if you just want straight line performance without the mag ride then maybe upgrading your SS is the way to go. I like the twisties as well as straight line, so with everything considered, the ZL1 is a great all round car.