03-23-2018, 06:39 AM | #1 |
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Maggie CAI recommendations
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of my Magnusson blower kit. I ordered from Ted Jannetty a little over 2 weeks ago. I'm currently running a cold air inductions CAI that I purchased before doing my homework - I'm not dissatisfied with the CAI but all the top tuners seem to prefer the rotofab.
I know that the Maggie is designed to be used with the factory intake. Rotofab also offers a Maggie compatible unit. I'm in need of some guidance before I install my blower and start working with Ted on remote tuning. 1. What are the gains for rotofab vs stock on a Maggie equipped car running a 95mm pulley? 2. Is the CAI unit compatible with the Maggie kit? Thanks in advance for any advice. Jim
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03-23-2018, 07:14 PM | #2 |
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The Rotofab is the best choice. You only need the box and filter set up. The tube that comes from magnuson will be a direct fit for the Rotofab.
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03-23-2018, 09:01 PM | #3 |
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Congrats on the Maggie. I have heard my car has a Maggie installed too...just haven’t see it since the installation. I think Laynlo has doubled the mileage on the dyno from when I dropped it off.
It would be interesting to see the difference between CaI kits. I thought Ted had a thread where he did an in depth comparison. If it wasn’t Ted, maybe Pray.
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03-24-2018, 07:39 AM | #5 |
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It is absolutely critical when it comes to making big numbers. The ZL1 RotoFab Intake is large and fits the Maggie perfectly. Its the same inner diameter as a 103mm tb which is the next restriction, the next restriction after that is the stock Maggie inlet/tb adapter. The more air you can cram into the rotors of the Maggie the more power you will make.
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03-24-2018, 11:25 AM | #6 |
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FI cars benefit more...Rotofab shows upwards of 25whp over stock box.
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03-25-2018, 02:18 AM | #7 |
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Here is the difference that I have found between stock and Rotofab using the dry filter. The benefits get larger the more power you make. We were running a 1009HP LT1 on the dyno last week and the Rotofab dry filter was worth 40HP over a similiar sized K/N at this power level.
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03-25-2018, 09:47 AM | #8 |
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If the preference is to remain with the stock sealed airbox (stealthy Stock-Like appearance inside the engine bay - as much as possible), what can be done to reach close to the Rotofab power improvements?
I.E. Filter itself? Plumbing into the box / diameter, Etc.? |
03-25-2018, 10:02 AM | #9 |
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There is a YouTube thread on modding the stock box. Even then Pray tested it on a NA application at the track and the Rotofab still trapped 1mph higher in worse DA. Most do not realize that a dyno is not going to show the full gains of a Cai or ram air because it needs the incoming air pressure to work as designed.
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03-25-2018, 10:39 AM | #10 |
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I'm convinced. Looks like a RotoFab CAI is in my future. Haven't researched yet, but I seem to recall that a Maggie compatible unit is available from Rotofab. Seems that it should be cheaper given that, I assume, it is a standard NA unit minus the elbow?
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You have a choice between the stock air box or the new ZL-1 CAI or Rotofab CAI to fit your Maggie. There will always be some benefit from aftermarket cold air kit on a supercharger typically in the upper RPM shown in the Dyno graph above. I would be happy to discuss your options over the phone at your convenience. Thank you Ted.
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03-25-2018, 01:18 PM | #12 |
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Thanks, Ted. Since it appears that the rotofab CAI complements the maggie very well, it probably make sense to throw one on before we start tuning. I'll give you a call tomorrow
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03-26-2018, 08:54 AM | #13 |
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03-26-2018, 01:03 PM | #14 |
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Go big or go home! Ted talked me into going all out - ZL1 dry filter Rotofab is on the way!
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