[NASTY99Z28]

Originally Posted by MIZL1

The 2016 Camaro SS LT will run a 12.4 at best on average. The same engine in the A8 C7 weighs 3,300 lbs which is much lighter and it's advertised quarter times are 12.1. Now someone who shows a stock car running 11.7 we can find a slug running 12.5. Nothing wrong with low to mid 12s, after all GM didn't advertise the ZL1 nor Z28 breaking 11,s although we can find them or with very few mods get there. Now a 2016 with a SL7 would be a dream!

I like the looks of new Camaro, good job GM,

Actually gm did in fact say the zl1 would run 11.9's. Even said it would do it all day long. That's when the huge drag radial time started because gm admitted to using them. GM never gave a estimate for the z/28.

Originally Posted by Camaro6Fan

Any chance the A8 T4 is faster/quicker than the ecoboost Mustang?

Maybe quicker out of the whole because of gearing but with such close weight the stang should pull around it since it makes about 30hp more.

[big dave]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

Actually gm did in fact say the zl1 would run 11.9's. Even said it would do it all day long. That's when the huge drag radial time started because gm admitted to using them. GM never gave a estimate for the z/28.

Maybe quicker out of the whole because of gearing but with such close weight the stang should pull around it since it makes about 30hp more.

Yeah, the 11 second time slips GM posted for the ZL1 were with drag radials, they stated in the video that the cars would run low 12s all day long. I know they can be quite a bit faster stock than what GM got, in the right conditions.

Back to the original topic. I think the magazines should be able to run 12.5s with the new car. Having more hp along with lighter weight doesn't guarantee that you'll get the power to the ground. However, I don't think a 12.2 or 12.3 would be out of the question in the hands of a capable driver, on a nicely prepped track on a great air day.

[BigBlock427]

when will we know the real times?

[BigBlock427]

Originally Posted by big dave

Yeah, the 11 second time slips GM posted for the ZL1 were with drag radials, they stated in the video that the cars would run low 12s all day long. I know they can be quite a bit faster stock than what GM got, in the right conditions.

Back to the original topic. I think the magazines should be able to run 12.5s with the new car. Having more hp along with lighter weight doesn't guarantee that you'll get the power to the ground. However, I don't think a 12.2 or 12.3 would be out of the question in the hands of a capable driver, on a nicely prepped track on a great air day.

this is what i think as well.

The power to weight ratio of the new SS is around 0.12431 based off 455hp and a curb weight of 3660.

the Zl1 is 0.14077 so the SS will be close but a solid 12.3 hell even a 12.5 is a solid improvement for the SS! I think the 0-60 is going to be crazy fast or in the low to mid 4s... traction and smaller wheels plus the 8 speed will determine that. I am getting very excited for 2017-18...


another way to look at it is.... get your base weight for the new SS... so lets say 200lbs - 3860lbs (crub weight of the current SS) gets you 3660... cars 3000-4000lbs will roughly see 10hp per 100lbs. soo 455hp+20= 475hp... so basically you should have time similar to a current SS running 475hp (at the motor) with this theory. so all in all you're seeing a increase of 426hp to 475hp ... so 39hp increase over the previous gen.

Find a current SS with intake, exhaust and a tune and you have the new camaro numbers...maybe...

[PurgeSS]

Originally Posted by Camaro6Fan

Any chance the A8 T4 is faster/quicker than the ecoboost Mustang?

Not comparable, GM placed it 4-6-8 and Ford did it 6-4-8
So it'll be the V6 vs the EcoBoost turbo 4, Chevy will be taking the win.

[PurgeSS]

I will say auto get 4.0-3.85 and the 6spd will get 4.1-3.9.

[IOMike]

Originally Posted by Camaro6Fan

Any chance the A8 T4 is faster/quicker than the ecoboost Mustang?

Stock for stock, I doubt it but they will be really really close. 100lbs lighter and 8 speed help. V6 Camaro will have no issue at all with the ecoboost Mustang.

[BigBlock427]

Originally Posted by PurgeSS

I will say auto get 4.0-3.85 and the 6spd will get 4.1-3.9.

I dont not think you are going to see a 3.8 out of the SS.

[PurgeSS]

Originally Posted by BigBlock427

I dont not think you are going to see a 3.8 out of the SS.

Well I said 3.85 which is quite a difference, but, we will during that hero run, which is why I allowed for variations in time.

[snarky]

SS manual ( 3.73 gear ) 12.6
V6 manual 13.4
Turbo 4 ? still waiting for it to cross the line

[IOMike]

Whoa, I'm a Mustang celeb now, one of the graspers over there quoted me!

Yes Todd, high 11s near 120 for a hero run, stock, within 1 race season. The norm, no way. That will be lower 12s and probably 116 for a good run.

Of course they manipulated the quote to be mid 11s... And near 120 means almost, as in, 119.

Quote it guy!

[mvfjet]

12.5 @ 115 manual SS. 12.3 @ 114 automatic SS

[shaffe]

Mag times for the SS mid 12s.

[Fraxum]

For me to be interested it will have to be stock at least as fast as the stock 392 Dodges. So that would be 12.4 or better. A stock 5th gen SS did run a 12.588 once, a hero run. I mean a time anyone could run with a little practice. If so 11s are going to be possible with a CAI and DRs.

Given the weight promises and the power that should be easy with the automatic. But only time will tell.