Need help choosing a good cam

[eLeSthree]

I think any decent cam wil get the job done, as long as the rest of the combo and the tune are right. Dyno numbers can vary so much. I made 450/430 on a dynojet with an email tune. Then I installed a CAI intake and got a real tune on a mustang dyno, with great weather, and made 502/445.

Mods in sig

Edit: oops sig is vague.
Tsp 2 inch headers
3inch exhaust
Cai intake
226/236 525/525 110

[10 2SS/RS 6M]

Originally Posted by eLeSthree

I think any decent cam wil get the job done, as long as the rest of the combo and the tune are right. Dyno numbers can vary so much. I made 450/430 on a dynojet with an email tune. Then I installed a CAI intake and got a real tune on a mustang dyno, with great weather, and made 502/445.

Mods in sig

Edit: oops sig is vague.
Tsp 2 inch headers
3inch exhaust
Cai intake
226/236 525/525 110

So your under .0240 degree's in duration with a 110 LSA and making 500 at the wheels!
Seems the less LSA gives it more top end but probably sacrifices bottom end. But makes a nice sounding cam at idle. Where are you idling at?
Let me ask you this, with that 110 LSA, did you loose bottom to mid range compared to the stock cam, or is it a broader power band then the stock cam?
Your right about the difference in dyno's, non are going to give you the same numbers.
Now weather conditions play a big part. When I had mine dyno tuned it was a hot 90-100 degree day and very humid. That was back in 2010.
The cooler the air with low humidity is a difference you can feel in the seat, so making more power sounds logical (is logical) with ideal weather conditions.
Seems these LS motors love the 2 inch headers too!
I'm not going with a custom grind cam, I'm just going to stay in the upper 230's duration, with a little wider LSA then yours, that's why I'm asking how did it affect your bottom to mid range power, and is your torque peak lower then the stock cam? Thanks.

[eLeSthree]

Originally Posted by 10 2SS/RS 6M

So your under .0240 degree's in duration with a 110 LSA and making 500 at the wheels!
Seems the less LSA gives it more top end but probably sacrifices bottom end. But makes a nice sounding cam at idle. Where are you idling at?
Let me ask you this, with that 110 LSA, did you loose bottom to mid range compared to the stock cam, or is it a broader power band then the stock cam?
Your right about the difference in dyno's, non are going to give you the same numbers.
Now weather conditions play a big part. When I had mine dyno tuned it was a hot 90-100 degree day and very humid. That was back in 2010.
The cooler the air with low humidity is a difference you can feel in the seat, so making more power sounds logical (is logical) with ideal weather conditions.
Seems these LS motors love the 2 inch headers too!
I'm not going with a custom grind cam, I'm just going to stay in the upper 230's duration, with a little wider LSA then yours, that's why I'm asking how did it affect your bottom to mid range power, and is your torque peak lower then the stock cam? Thanks.

I'm not sacrificing anything down low. Average tq is 402. I chose this cam for its broad torque range. I will say that the tighter lsa, like this 110 kinda sucks on the street to daily drive. But my tuner did a great job making it liveable. Idle is great at 750. Some bucking in tall gears under 1200 rpm, to be expected.

Enjoy it, I sure am!

[10 2SS/RS 6M]

Originally Posted by eLeSthree

I'm not sacrificing anything down low. Average tq is 402. I chose this cam for its broad torque range. I will say that the tighter lsa, like this 110 kinda sucks on the street to daily drive. But my tuner did a great job making it liveable. Idle is great at 750. Some bucking in tall gears under 1200 rpm, to be expected.

Enjoy it, I sure am!

That's good news for me, I may go with a 112 LSA with, around 240
degree's of duration on the exhaust and around 233 on the intake, I want to find the flow numbers for the LS3 heads, then decide my lift from there.
At least that's a ball park figure going with a cam similar to that.
But then these cams are designed or ground for these LS motors. The only thing that's going to hurt my top end a little is the smaller 1 3/4" L.T.. headers I have now.
I'm going to talk to my tuner to see his input on my decision or if he recommends a cam that he has the best numbers, he has seen from his experience.
I'll post my results when the time comes.
Thanks for the help!

[Pollock]

I like my Jannetty racing 470 RWHP cam. Drives almost stock and has great power. I cant post the specs but I dont think I would go any more aggressive. A 233 240 with 112 may not be fun to drive below 1500 to 2000 rpm. To each their own.

[10 2SS/RS 6M]

Originally Posted by Pollock

I like my Jannetty racing 470 RWHP cam. Drives almost stock and has great power. I cant post the specs but I dont think I would go any more aggressive. A 233 240 with 112 may not be fun to drive below 1500 to 2000 rpm. To each their own.

I been thinking about Jannetty Racing, I like Ted, he's to the point and really knows these LS motors.
I'd like to know the specs, unless it's a cam he profiled himself? I assume your still in the upper 220 degree's on the intake, with your numbers, I'm not sure of the LSA most likely wider around 214-216?
I used to just throw the biggest cam at my 1st gen small block Chevy engines, I didn't care back then if it had to idle at 1500 RPM's!
I'm older and more conservative now.
I hate the stock cam for it's peaky HP curve, 4700 RPM's torque peak?
Chevy was trying hard to make as much horsepower and maintain a good idle, etc. I'm guessing?
Thanks again for the input, every little bit helps!

[WHAMMO]

Dont get caught in the dyno game,the more I look at numbers online, the more it means nothing to me. A lot of plp have hero dyno run, but very few has the timeslip to go with it. No hate here, dynosheets are cool!

Per say, my car has a TSP 231 236 111lsa cam with a 91oct tune, UDs, LTs, HFC, stock Hpipe&NPP, Halltech CAI, no ram air. Dynoed 440rwhp 417rwtq...

So its pretty pathetic eh? Kinda, on paper. But ''surprisingly'', it did 12.6@118mph (2.2 0-60ft!), full weight, 3/4 gas tank, street tires, on a tough track. 3 passes only, 1st time out. Imagine with great air&track, 93 tune, drag pack, some basic weight out and less gas. FYI, on the same day, a boltons C7 11.9-12.0@117mph all day, stock C7 12.4-6@114mph, Supercharged Coyote 11.6-7@120mph...

Find me a cam only 5gen with 'light boltons', street tires, no tricks, that will backup their 490+rwhp with a timeslip with a 120mph+ pass. I'm sure there is some hidden gem and hardcore drivers outhere or hero DA, but I havent found any LBO cam-only 5th gen over 120mph on street tires, BUT they should with their 490-500rwhp dyno sheet. Most of em, like all of them are in the 115-117mph zone. Just look at the Camaro5 fast list. Maybe Lazorlemonta, with the E85 and FULL botlons, rockers etc is gonna do it. He is not your average LBO guy LOL

Dyno numbers are cool but means nothing unless you back it up.

About the TSP 231 236 on 111lsa
I love my 231 236 and it has a 400rwtq tabletop from 3000-5500, fun on the streets! Pulls all the way to 6800-7k! I strongly recommend it, or the 235 239 for extra power. Its easy to drive with a Pat G tune! Very Slight bucking at low speed 1200-1400rpm. Thats it. Zero bucking on highway.

GO with what YOU NEED, dont try to impress no one, be realistic about your goals.

my 02.

[CFD]

I agree about dyno numbers. I now have a 418, LLSR, 11.8 comp. 3:91 gears in an auto. It dynode at 448 hp on a mustang dyno with unlocked converter. It is much faster than my previous set ups which included several of the popular cams here TSP vvt3, GPI ss3 and ss4 with all the typical boltons, which many show numbers closer to 500.

[eLeSthree]

Originally Posted by WHAMMO

Dont get caught in the dyno game,the more I look at numbers online, the more it means nothing to me. A lot of plp have hero dyno run, but very few has the timeslip to go with it. No hate here, dynosheets are cool!

Per say, my car has a TSP 231 236 111lsa cam with a 91oct tune, UDs, LTs, HFC, stock Hpipe&NPP, Halltech CAI, no ram air. Dynoed 440rwhp 417rwtq...

So its pretty pathetic eh? Kinda, on paper. But ''surprisingly'', it did 12.6@118mph (2.2 0-60ft!), full weight, 3/4 gas tank, street tires, on a tough track. 3 passes only, 1st time out. Imagine with great air&track, 93 tune, drag pack, some basic weight out and less gas. FYI, on the same day, a boltons C7 11.9-12.0@117mph all day, stock C7 12.4-6@114mph, Supercharged Coyote 11.6-7@120mph...

Find me a cam only 5gen with 'light boltons', street tires, no tricks, that will backup their 490+rwhp with a timeslip with a 120mph+ pass. I'm sure there is some hidden gem and hardcore drivers outhere or hero DA, but I havent found any LBO cam-only 5th gen over 120mph on street tires, BUT they should with their 490-500rwhp dyno sheet. Most of em, like all of them are in the 115-117mph zone. Just look at the Camaro5 fast list. Maybe Lazorlemonta, with the E85 and FULL botlons, rockers etc is gonna do it. He is not your average LBO guy LOL

Dyno numbers are cool but means nothing unless you back it up.

About the TSP 231 236 on 111lsa
I love my 231 236 and it has a 400rwtq tabletop from 3000-5500, fun on the streets! Pulls all the way to 6800-7k! I strongly recommend it, or the 235 239 for extra power. Its easy to drive with a Pat G tune! Very Slight bucking at low speed 1200-1400rpm. Thats it. Zero bucking on highway.

GO with what YOU NEED, dont try to impress no one, be realistic about your goals.

my 02.

I've never run at the track before, but I'll be going soon. My buddys 2015 dynod @ 475/430 dynojet. He runs 12.09 w/1.85 60' @ 115 on Nitto 555g2s. Good driver. I beat him on the streets if I get traction. I think that's a pretty good indication I'm making more power. Will I beat his ET? Not sure, we'll see if i can drive...

That being said, there are a few cars at the same track that have dyno'd 500 and run 13's.

118 mph is pretty damn good for a "crappy" 440 dyno.

EDIT: By the way, I wasn't pushing this cam. There are betters out there.

[Camaro Dude]

Just do an engine search, 120 trap speed camaro5

[Camaro Dude]

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429732

[WHAMMO]

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

Just do an engine search, 120 trap speed camaro5

Yeah I said look at camaro5 fast list, most are running DRs, heads and L99, remind you they are the fastest of all. Point is there's not many guys backing their dyno sheet with ET or mph. IMO, there should be a lot more running 118-122mph even with shitty ET.