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Old 12-07-2023, 04:20 PM   #1
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Great read on demise of the Camaro. It Deserved Better.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cul...eserved-better

Great article, check it out.
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Old 12-07-2023, 04:56 PM   #2
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It is. I already posted it in the Another Sad Day for Camaro thread, LOL.
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Old 12-07-2023, 05:04 PM   #3
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GM left the Camaro out to rot last time, too. It's a darn shame, and here we are again.
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Old 12-08-2023, 05:35 AM   #4
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Good read for sure. Thanks for posting.
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Old 12-08-2023, 08:13 AM   #5
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It is. I already posted it in the Another Sad Day for Camaro thread, LOL.
Yea sorry guys. Saw it after I posted this article.
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Old 12-08-2023, 07:21 PM   #6
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really wish they had the volume to do more versions. would love a "grand sport" 1le, with everything from ZLE but the MRC and LT1 from the SS.

the comments on that article and the reddit thread of the same name are pretty sad, citing "visibility" for why they went mustang over camaro despite all of that cars limitations. really hate how Viral opinions can get "oh yeah the visibility is pretty terrible in that car", when the opinion came third hand from someone who sat in one in a showroom....once.

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Old 12-08-2023, 07:52 PM   #7
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It is a shame. I'm just glad I could pick one up this year after first lusting after the IROC Z in high school in the 80's. The Mustang never did it for me. With it's awful interiors that have followed it to this day. That Dark Horse interior is hideous, with those giant screens. Oh well, I'm sure GM in its infinite wisdom will reincarnate it as some god awful soulless, boring EV pos with 4 doors and an $80K price tag.
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Old 12-08-2023, 08:46 PM   #8
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really wish they had the volume to do more versions. would love a "grand sport" 1le, with everything from ZLE but the MRC and LT1 from the SS.
I feel like the 1le is to the Camaro, what the grand sport is to the corvette. Also if you’re keeping the MRC then what else is there from the zle that you want? The rear cradle bushings? That would be it. You should add those if you want them to yours. Read on these forums that they make a difference. The only other thing from the zle I can think of are the slightly larger brakes and wheels but honestly the Chevy engineers engineered the SS 1le to work perfectly in its current configuration.

Personally I wish our SS 1le’s had either a hot rodded LT1 or an LS7. The chassis are begging for another 50-100 more horsepower. When my warranty is up I’m either getting a zl1 or adding bolt ons. Or I might yolo it and go heads cam.
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Old 12-08-2023, 08:55 PM   #9
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really wish they had the volume to do more versions. would love a "grand sport" 1le, with everything from ZLE but the MRC and LT1 from the SS.

I think you're mechanically describing the 2SS 1LE but with some more aggressive aero.
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Old 12-08-2023, 09:01 PM   #10
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I think you're mechanically describing the 2SS 1LE but with some more aggressive aero.

Yep. Wing, Wider front fenders, the zl1 bumper with the canards. Thinner rear glass. Maybe a more aggressive mrc tune and spring rate. An adjustable rear bar.


Also really wish they'd radially mount their calipers to make rotor resizing easier but that's a different topic.
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Old 12-08-2023, 09:17 PM   #11
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The rear cradle bushings? That would be it. You should add those if you want them to yours.

Personally I wish our SS 1le’s had either a hot rodded LT1 or an LS7.
im about to bite the bullet and pay for 6 hours of labor to do the delrin bmr bushings.

ls7 would be sick.
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Old 12-08-2023, 09:29 PM   #12
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Yep. Wing, Wider front fenders, the zl1 bumper with the canards. Thinner rear glass. Maybe a more aggressive mrc tune and spring rate. An adjustable rear bar.


Also really wish they'd radially mount their calipers to make rotor resizing easier but that's a different topic.

I'm not as knowledgeable about Corvettes, but I thought the Grand Sport was more like a Z06 equivalent. What you're describing sounds more like a ZR1.
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Old 12-09-2023, 07:38 AM   #13
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I'm not as knowledgeable about Corvettes, but I thought the Grand Sport was more like a Z06 equivalent. What you're describing sounds more like a ZR1.
A grand sport is basically a z06 but with the base model engine. So you get the z06 wide body, brakes, larger wheels, aero and suspension but no engine upgrade.
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