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It's got 30000miles on it dude. Plus ever hear of "test drives" quote on quote??? Quote:
Case scenario, you are searching the entire state for a black 2013 1LE with nothing over 20K. After an exhaustive search, you find a total of two of them, both identical, even identical in price, everything identical, except when you look under the car, the frame bolts, exhaust nuts and clamps, have a lil' surface rust. The wheel wells are dirty, mud caked stains, etc, suggesting driven in the rain, dirt road, perhaps even occasional wet snow. The other one, when you look undertake car, is MIIIIIINT, meaning that literally any bolt you try and turn, will turn like butter. In fact, even the original chalk/marker writings under the car are still legible, and the wheel wells, floors, pipes, etc, all look like they just rolled off the assembly floor. The only peopler on here who will try to debate what I just wrote, are those who wish to rationalize their own loss, or worst case, are butt hurt LOL. |
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06-13-2018, 12:08 PM | #16 | |
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I am assuming this is on a car lot and yes we are all aware of "test drives" lol This isn't an argument. In the states a 2013 1le is not a $29k car. Sorry if that offends you. |
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06-13-2018, 12:10 PM | #17 | ||
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Maybe you should stop "assuming" . Re-read below Quote:
Couldn't really care less what it sells for. Offends me? LOLlllll nope. |
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06-13-2018, 12:19 PM | #18 | |
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Dealer always tacks warranty premium on price, vs private sale, which the latter has no warranty. Are you a DIYer or will you depend on warranty for everything to wrench you free? |
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06-13-2018, 12:28 PM | #19 | |
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06-13-2018, 12:58 PM | #20 | |
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I wasn’t picking at you. Just picking on those, who know who they are and the up and comers priming themselves up Yes, so you in theory you find two identically priced cars, identical in equipment..... “You” being the smart consumer, will obviously negotiate the price on both cars, right? You would have nothing to lose, even if one was a GEM, and the other wasn’t. For sure, I think, that you will have a better chance dropping the price of the non-gem one, versus the other. The final price difference between the two identical cars will be the answer to your question. If i was the shopper, and found my dream second hand Camaro, yes, I could easily see myself literally taking out AT LEAST $2000 more out of my wallet, in appreciation of a gem. Perhaps even more. As a seller, a gem car, would definitely be narrowing down your target audience you wish to sell to. This might add to seller deperation asking price. It also might not. For a buyer, searching for that real garage queen, it is tougher than you think as well. This adds to the price drama in question. There is a medium between seller desperation and buyer desperation, or lack of. Spring or Fall also adds to the price variation. |
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06-13-2018, 02:51 PM | #21 |
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I have a 13 2SS RS with 14k on the clock. Never driven in rain, Xpelled, upgraded to heated/power Recaros in 2015 (13s never came with the Recaro option).
Make me an offer I can't refuse OP . But yes, seriously, with 30k on the clock, the price is a bit much.
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06-13-2018, 03:15 PM | #22 |
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[QUOTE=Camaro Dude;10217010]But of course.
I wasn’t picking at you. Just picking on those, who know who they are and the up and comers priming themselves up. Getting all gangsta on us. Lmao. |
06-13-2018, 03:20 PM | #23 | |
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I like the top of my dashboards and paint to be MiiiiiiiiiiiinT. |
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06-13-2018, 03:32 PM | #24 |
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I can assure you the top of the dash is minty fresh. For what it's worth, and I'm not saying my car is worth more than the next guy's because it's never seen rain, but if I'm the buyer, I'd gladly spend a couple grand more for a mint condition car vs. one with car wash scratches and dog hair inside. My DD is a leased piece of crap to me, I could care less. But my fun cars are to be enjoyed and stay as clean as possible. To each their own, you pay for the car, you enjoy it how you please. For me though, I'm buying as clean and low miles as possible.
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06-13-2018, 03:55 PM | #25 | |
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I am just having fun. I know a super clean car is important to you. I respect that, it just has no added value to me. |
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06-13-2018, 04:56 PM | #26 | |
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I catch your drift. I too respect that. It’s just something more dirty, has less value to me. Example. I have bought and sold (flipped) a few houses in my time. I can tell you right now with great confidence, that a clean, well furnished house, will in fact, fetch a few $$$$$ more, than an identical looking twin house, completely empty, with dirty floors, and faded paint on the walls, from UV intrusion, etc. Same applies to cars for the most part. Of course, in todays world of revolving credit and debt, and flipping automobiles through leases every 3-4 years, most people (debt slaves) don’t care no more, sadly. Resale becomes skewed. Think adjuster at dealer. For sure he don’t care, except for what his little book tells him to. |
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06-13-2018, 05:21 PM | #27 | |
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06-13-2018, 05:29 PM | #28 | |
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A house doesn’t rust!!! Lol Take a wrench and go under Sledge. You can literally hand wrench every nut/bolt/screw loose, with minimal torque effort. Even the rear muffler, even the wheel nuts. 5 year old car. Try that with a 2 year old car from some humid place, driven daily through thunder storms, and hand wrenching is superceded by power tools to remove, lol. Actually for the house analogy, I’ll tone it down, and say, two identical, both well taken care of, BUT one furnished and vacuumed, and one empty and not! The former wins again at resale $$$$$ |
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