GM Reveals 2016 Cadillac CTS-V - Page 3

Unreal · 12-22-2014, 08:32 AM

It is ultra conservative IAT retard timing. So once the car sees any heat from the blower, it pulls timing. So in a way it is heat soak, or IAT timing. Call it what you want. Either way it loses a lot of power after a few pulls.

I see no reason why this wouldn't land up in the new ZL1 or equivalent, but that is probably 2 years out. First you will get a gen 6 camaro, then a year later probably a zl1.

That being said, LSA motors can make 640hp with tune/headers/intake easy enough.

Clark Grizwald · 12-22-2014, 08:45 AM

Now a grampa car is going blow my doors off!

MEDISIN · 12-22-2014, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lbls1

A very fitting CTS-V finally. Unless GM is saving the HP tweak for the next ZL, Cadillac will have to play catch up in some aspect of its performance now that the Hellcat has arrived.

Who'd ever think that 640 hp wasn't enough?????

Seeing as the CTS-V sedan, wagon and coupe have been sporting 556hp for several years now, it is the Hellcat Charger that is playing catchup (the 300 just called it quits). The V3 may have less power but it will also weigh 500lbs less and come with wider rubber. Ultimately these cars are not cross shopped as one is a luxury car and the other is a mainstream brand.

BaylorCamaro · 12-22-2014, 08:53 AM

I figured it was going to get a detuned LT4. Pretty cool.

jessrayo · 12-22-2014, 09:15 AM

Nice... so if the ZL1 ends up with 24 more hp than the V like the last LSA, then count on about 664 hp.... If they can pull about 400 pounds off the current ZL1 platform this will be very impressive.

BaylorCamaro · 12-22-2014, 09:20 AM

Awesome! Can't wait to see the comparisons of the new V with the M5 & E63!

shank0668 · 12-22-2014, 09:25 AM

I like everything except that it's automatic only.

woodside783 · 12-22-2014, 09:33 AM

Please please please

Unreal · 12-22-2014, 09:33 AM

I would bet that the ZL1 gets the same 640, maybe 650 since the vette is only doing 650. Who knows, maybe they bump the power on all the models after a year or two.

Denis · 12-22-2014, 09:34 AM

honestly, I cant wait to see this Vs the Hellcat charger.

GoldCartridgeGamer · 12-22-2014, 09:36 AM

Can't wait to see these on the roads and tracks!

BigBlock69RS · 12-22-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unreal

That being said, LSA motors can make 640hp with tune/headers/intake easy enough.

New LT1/LT4 series of motors isn't about peak HP/tq numbers but greatly increased power under the curve from idle to the peak. Sure you can build a motor that makes same or more, but going to be hard to get one that has such a power curve and can get 30mpg in a C7 cruising down the highway.

Not to mention after these motors have been around for a few years and the aftermarket does their magic. Wouldn't surprise me if the LT4 is easy to get 800 peak numbers out of with a few tweaks and bolt ons.

tooslow · 12-22-2014, 09:40 AM

My spouse and I have been discussing a four-door for months now. This car goes to the top of the list.

Unreal · 12-22-2014, 09:47 AM

It would surprise me since they are going to be far more blower limited than the other. With a blower swap, sure. Vengance has already done 660rwhp on a c7z, but they are saying the blower is already maxed out at that level. They are hoping with heads/cam/meth to crack 700rwhp, but that is all the 1.7L has in it.

LSA/LS9 make plenty of low end, enough to make traction just about nonexistant, so adding more low end to a PD blown v8 to me gets to the point of being silly.

12-22-2014, 08:32 AM	#29
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	It is ultra conservative IAT retard timing. So once the car sees any heat from the blower, it pulls timing. So in a way it is heat soak, or IAT timing. Call it what you want. Either way it loses a lot of power after a few pulls. I see no reason why this wouldn't land up in the new ZL1 or equivalent, but that is probably 2 years out. First you will get a gen 6 camaro, then a year later probably a zl1. That being said, LSA motors can make 640hp with tune/headers/intake easy enough. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

12-22-2014, 08:45 AM	#30
Clark Grizwald Brewmaster Drives: 2013 ZL1, 2015 Tundra 1794 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Cary, Illinois Posts: 256 View My Garage	Now a grampa car is going blow my doors off! __________________ "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "... holy sh*t...what a ride!"

12-22-2014, 08:53 AM	#32
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	I figured it was going to get a detuned LT4. Pretty cool. __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston

12-22-2014, 09:15 AM	#33
jessrayo Speed Freak Drives: 2013 ZL1 Camaro, 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Ardmore, OK Posts: 2,637 View My Garage	Nice... so if the ZL1 ends up with 24 more hp than the V like the last LSA, then count on about 664 hp.... If they can pull about 400 pounds off the current ZL1 platform this will be very impressive. __________________ 2016 SS -AGP twin Borg Warner 7163 EFR's, LT4 mechanical pump, LT4 injectors, Walbro 255 low side, Castrol SRF. 734whp/759 tq 2013 ZL1 -ADM - 427 LSX 6 bolt, O-ringed block built by LME. Twin PT6466 turbos. RPM custom manual trans, RPS Quad carbon clutch, 9" Hendrix rear diff & axles. ADM/squash fuel system, Ron Davis radiator, Spal fans, AGP air to air, turbo plumbing. LPE oil cooler, rear bushing upgrade, roll bar...etc. rwhp 1400+... 212.5mph, best Texas mile to date.

12-22-2014, 09:20 AM	#34
BaylorCamaro Track > 1/4 Mile Drives: 2016 C7 Z51 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: League City, TX Posts: 6,072 View My Garage	Awesome! Can't wait to see the comparisons of the new V with the M5 & E63! __________________ Automotive YouTube Channel / Texas World Speedway / MSR Houston

12-22-2014, 09:25 AM	#35
shank0668 Drives: '14 LML/'06 LJ/'76 Trans Am Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,438 View My Garage	I like everything except that it's automatic only.

12-22-2014, 09:33 AM	#36
woodside783 Casey Woodside Drives: a very fun car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Tn Posts: 1,906	Please please please __________________ Instagram @caseywoodside http://youtu.be/CSc9aPh_X_w

12-22-2014, 09:34 AM	#38
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	honestly, I cant wait to see this Vs the Hellcat charger. __________________

12-22-2014, 09:36 AM	#39
GoldCartridgeGamer Drives: 2014 Ford SVT Raptor SuperCrew Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,527	Can't wait to see these on the roads and tracks! __________________ Phoenix (sold) 2014 Ford SVT Raptor SuperCrew How to hug your camaro Buy the car that you would most like to get beat in. The other guy will always be faster.

12-22-2014, 09:40 AM	#41
tooslow Banned Drives: 4 Wheels, Gasoline Engine Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,007	My spouse and I have been discussing a four-door for months now. This car goes to the top of the list.

12-22-2014, 09:47 AM	#42
Unreal Drives: 2006 Z06 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 5,712	It would surprise me since they are going to be far more blower limited than the other. With a blower swap, sure. Vengance has already done 660rwhp on a c7z, but they are saying the blower is already maxed out at that level. They are hoping with heads/cam/meth to crack 700rwhp, but that is all the 1.7L has in it. LSA/LS9 make plenty of low end, enough to make traction just about nonexistant, so adding more low end to a PD blown v8 to me gets to the point of being silly. __________________ Nick Corvette Z06 -1200ish rwhp

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