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Old 08-28-2017, 10:32 PM   #15
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If you are worried about the price, wait a couple years and snag a low mileage one for 40k.
You already have an ss which is a very very fast car.

The ZL1 is STUPID CRAZY IM GONNA DIE FAST.
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Old 08-28-2017, 10:33 PM   #16
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I would agree that the 2SS is very fast on the road, but I have also been told the ZL1 drives like a different car....

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Old 08-29-2017, 06:53 AM   #17
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you can build your 2ss to be just as fast as a Zl1 for much less money. I looked at a couple Zl1's before buying a 1SS(money is not a issue) and thought they are overpriced.
I said this along time ago with my 5th gen SS. i modded it.. (you know, like you do) and even though I spent about 10k in performance based mods the reality was that I was not even close. I went to test drive a ZL1 (which I bought) and although the car was as fast as a ZL1 in a stright line, it was lacking everywhere else - suspension, braking, usable torque, etc.

The ZL1 may be a camaro, but the reality is that it is a completely different driving experience.

The only problem is that once you have a ZL1, the SS will no longer interest you.
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:01 AM   #18
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I said this along time ago with my 5th gen SS. i modded it.. (you know, like you do) and even though I spent about 10k in performance based mods the reality was that I was not even close. I went to test drive a ZL1 (which I bought) and although the car was as fast as a ZL1 in a stright line, it was lacking everywhere else - suspension, braking, usable torque, etc.

The ZL1 may be a camaro, but the reality is that it is a completely different driving experience.

The only problem is that once you have a ZL1, the SS will no longer interest you.
Wow. Thank you

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Old 08-29-2017, 07:07 AM   #19
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Seems like you all agree.. I was surprised to see how much my 2SS has dropped in value. What do you think of the price of $63,995 on new 2017 ZL1 silver?
That's a sore spot with me as well. 15K in one year. I won't be doing that again. I've been stepping up my payments just so I can keep up with the depreciation. I'm wondering when the depreciation is going to slow down.

Seems like it's in a free fall right now. Just not used to that. My Toyota FJ depreciated 2,000 in 5 years lol.
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Old 08-29-2017, 07:13 AM   #20
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That's a sore spot with me as well. 15K in one year. I won't be doing that again.
I agree.... Wonder if the ZL1 will do the same

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Old 08-29-2017, 07:39 AM   #21
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I agree.... Wonder if the ZL1 will do the same

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Absolutely; the difference is that the ZL1 bottoms out at a much higher price point. Unless you have money to burn, I'd wait 1 year and buy low miles used.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:29 AM   #22
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I'd never buy a new one. Talk about throwing away 20k dollars. This car will depreciat like a rocket. Buy a used one with 10k miles in a year, trust me, you will save 15k.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:37 AM   #23
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I agree.... Wonder if the ZL1 will do the same

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I looked at a white 17 A10 ZL1 with 8k miles. It was a CPO and they were asking 62k. I bought my CPO 16 1SS with 900 miles last week for 8k less then the window sticker. There are plenty of folks buying brand new and turning around and trading or selling them with very low miles. So yeah I would never buy brand new. Save yourself some money and get a CPO...you still get a 12 month bumper to bumper and remaining factory warranty.
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Old 08-29-2017, 08:59 AM   #24
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ZL1 pros:
- eLSD
- Available 10-speed auto (optional)
- Performance Traction Management
- Improved Launch Control
- Electronic Line Lock
- Performance Data Recorder (optional)
- Wider fenders = bigger front tires
- Stiffer sway bars, MRC already tuned for it
- 650/650 instead of 455/455

ZL1 cons:
- Higher operating cost (e.g. 20 mpg instead of 33mpg for 2SS)
- Higher purchase price (e.g. 65k vs 45k for 2SS)
- Higher maintenance cost (e.g. 2200$ for set of OE tires installed vs 1500$ for SS)
- Almost nothing left to do to the car for 90% of buyers
- Adding 150-200hp costs way more than you're ready for if you're debating the price or payment of the car already
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:00 AM   #25
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ZL1 pros:
- eLSD
- Available 10-speed auto (optional)
- Performance Traction Management
- Improved Launch Control
- Electronic Line Lock
- Performance Data Recorder (optional)
- Wider fenders = bigger front tires
- Stiffer sway bars, MRC already tuned for it
- 650/650 instead of 455/455

ZL1 cons:
- Higher operating cost (e.g. 20 mpg instead of 33mpg for 2SS)
- Higher purchase price (e.g. 65k vs 45k for 2SS)
- Higher maintenance cost (e.g. 2200$ for set of OE tires installed vs 1500$ for SS)
- Almost nothing left to do to the car for 90% of buyers
- Adding 150-200hp costs way more than you're ready for if you're debating the price or payment of the car already
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:09 AM   #26
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After reading the V6 vs V8 thread, why not just go all out and upgrade to the V6?
Dude go easy on the guy he's just learning what horse power really means with a ZL1 and now you're going to get him murdered in an V6 that we all know is just too much power for anyone to ever need on public streets hence why noone on this forum has ever upgraded to one...

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Old 08-29-2017, 09:14 AM   #27
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I ordered my ZL1 back in January, got it in April and was worth the wait...It is such a great car in every way. Only negative i have is it doesn't do to well in a heavy down pour here in Tampa. Normal rain not an issue but when roads get a lot of standing water it doesn't do as good as my 2012 Camaro. Other than that i love everything about it. Sure i wish GM would have used a larger 2.3 or 2.9L supercharger and less TQ Management, but i wouldn't hesitate getting another one.
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Old 08-29-2017, 09:15 AM   #28
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Anyone have this problem in the ZL1?

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