[sonnydurden]

I want to lower my SS (no MRC) with the Eibach Pro-Kit. After the drop is an alignment all I need? I had one bad experience with lowering a car and never done it since. Any thoughts?

[Extreme Dimensions]

yes pretty much all you need !

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by Extreme Dimensions

yes pretty much all you need !

Thanks!! I have lowered 3 cars.. one was a disaster. A 2001 Lexus IS300.. did a H&R 2" drop. Could not keep it aligned for nothing. I was going through tires like crazy. I was told that I needed a camber kit but at the time one wasn't made for that car. Just don't want the head ache again!

[Sunsnare98]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

Thanks!! I have lowered 3 cars.. one was a disaster. A 2001 Lexus IS300.. did a H&R 2" drop. Could not keep it aligned for nothing. I was going through tires like crazy. I was told that I needed a camber kit but at the time one wasn't made for that car. Just don't want the head ache again!

Well that's your own ignorance. Anytime you drop a car two inches you run the risk of your camber being way off without any stock adjustability to fix it.

A general rule of thumb is 1 inch to 1.5 inches will be fine as far as getting your car within range of the alignment specs. Anything outside of that and you'll be eating tires up without a way to correct your camber.

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by Sunsnare98

Well that's your own ignorance. Anytime you drop a car two inches you run the risk of your camber being way off without any stock adjustability to fix it.

A general rule of thumb is 1 inch to 1.5 inches will be fine as far as getting your car within range of the alignment specs. Anything outside of that and you'll be eating tires up without a way to correct your camber.

I appreciate the advice, but that theory wasn't correct for my experience. I lowered 3 cars in the past. A 1999 Acura GS-R I believe those springs were Teins.. it was definitely 2"... Just an alignment and it was cool. Then I lowered a 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT on Eibach Pro Kit 1". Same thing just an alignment. No issues there either. But after the Lexus I didn't lower my last 3 cars. Just wanted to make sure I will be cool with this modest drop on the SS.

[Sunsnare98]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

I appreciate the advice, but that theory wasn't correct for my experience. I lowered 3 cars in the past. A 1999 Acura GS-R I believe those springs were Teins.. it was definitely 2"... Just an alignment and it was cool. Then I lowered a 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT on Eibach Pro Kit 1". Same thing just an alignment. No issues there either. But after the Lexus I didn't lower my last 3 cars. Just wanted to make sure I will be cool with this modest drop on the SS.

Every car has a different level of adjustment from the factory, some have none, like the 11-14 mustang. I can't give you a recommendation on your Rice burners but for a new gen camaro which is what you were asking about is...anything past 1.5 and you'll need camber plates to get your camber back to factory spec.

If I were you...I would spend a little more time learning about suspension before you lower your car. There are a lot of things to consider when goong this route.

[bpang1234]

Originally Posted by sonnydurden

I appreciate the advice, but that theory wasn't correct for my experience. I lowered 3 cars in the past. A 1999 Acura GS-R I believe those springs were Teins.. it was definitely 2"... Just an alignment and it was cool. Then I lowered a 2000 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT on Eibach Pro Kit 1". Same thing just an alignment. No issues there either. But after the Lexus I didn't lower my last 3 cars. Just wanted to make sure I will be cool with this modest drop on the SS.

The GS-R has a Double Wishbone suspension whereas most cars use the MacPherson setup.

Oversimplified answer is that the Double Wishbone is able to control camber throughout it's range of travel which is why your GS-R was able to handle such a drop and also why everybody thinks they can do a 2" drop on any old car.

When dropping a MacPherson setup dramatically (2") you are basically making the rest of the components rest at a 2"-worth of travel downwards which is where they push the camber out...which is why your tires were dieing in that Lexus.

Start with this video, he has 3 others:

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by Sunsnare98

Every car has a different level of adjustment from the factory, some have none, like the 11-14 mustang. I can't give you a recommendation on your Rice burners but for a new gen camaro which is what you were asking about is...anything past 1.5 and you'll need camber plates to get your camber back to factory spec.

If I were you...I would spend a little more time learning about suspension before you lower your car. There are a lot of things to consider when goong this route.

Thanks!!! You never stop learning!!

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by bpang1234

The GS-R has a Double Wishbone suspension whereas most cars use the MacPherson setup.

Oversimplified answer is that the Double Wishbone is able to control camber throughout it's range of travel which is why your GS-R was able to handle such a drop and also why everybody thinks they can do a 2" drop on any old car.

When dropping a MacPherson setup dramatically (2") you are basically making the rest of the components rest at a 2"-worth of travel downwards which is where they push the camber out...which is why your tires were dieing in that Lexus.

Start with this video, he has 3 others:

Good stuff!! Really appreciate the help and advice!

[17txcamaross]

sonnydurden, thank you for asking this question. I am in the exact same boat. Had a 2002 Lexus IS300 which I purchased used and did not realize it was lowered. Tires were impossible to keep on the car. Luckily discount believed me everytime that the car was not lowered and let me keep the tire warranty.

I would like to lower my SS and I am glad to hear that we should only need to get an alignment done.

I am hoping the suspension install is something I can do in my garage and then drive to get an alignment.

Also, forgot originally. My first car was a Honda Del Sol which I lowered with Eibach springs. Slight issue with camber, but only had the car 1.25 years before trading.

Definitely glad to be in a car with the power and handling I had been yearning for in my teenage years.

[BMR Suspension]

Springs are going to settle a bit. I would give it about 50 miles before you get an alignment.

Beyond that, if you have any issues keeping the alignment let me know. We have some parts that help keep the alignment in check for longer.

[17txcamaross]

Originally Posted by BMR Suspension

Springs are going to settle a bit. I would give it about 50 miles before you get an alignment.

Beyond that, if you have any issues keeping the alignment let me know. We have some parts that help keep the alignment in check for longer.

BMR, would you say your springs maintain a "smooth" ride on non MRC equipped Camaro SS?

I am not really devoted to any one manufacturer at this time. Could you tell me any advantages of using BMR springs vs the competition?

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by 17txcamaross

sonnydurden, thank you for asking this question. I am in the exact same boat. Had a 2002 Lexus IS300 which I purchased used and did not realize it was lowered. Tires were impossible to keep on the car. Luckily discount believed me everytime that the car was not lowered and let me keep the tire warranty.

I would like to lower my SS and I am glad to hear that we should only need to get an alignment done.

I am hoping the suspension install is something I can do in my garage and then drive to get an alignment.

Also, forgot originally. My first car was a Honda Del Sol which I lowered with Eibach springs. Slight issue with camber, but only had the car 1.25 years before trading.

Definitely glad to be in a car with the power and handling I had been yearning for in my teenage years.

Well it looks like if we stay away from an aggressive drop, we will be fine with just an alignment.

[sonnydurden]

Originally Posted by 17txcamaross

BMR, would you say your springs maintain a "smooth" ride on non MRC equipped Camaro SS?

I am not really devoted to any one manufacturer at this time. Could you tell me any advantages of using BMR springs vs the competition?

@BMR - Same question for me..