Officially the End - 2024 Camaro Collectors Edition - Page 26

classicrockr · 03-27-2023, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Check out this post from Al Oppenheiser. Original chief engineer of Camaro. Is this a hint to what’s coming!!!

Not seeing what you're talking about....

crysalis_01 · 03-27-2023, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by classicrockr

Not seeing what you're talking about....

Perhaps they're reading between nonexistent lines and thinking that maybe its a hint at a new Z/28?

02fbody35th · 03-27-2023, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crysalis_01

Perhaps they're reading between nonexistent lines and thinking that maybe its a hint at a new Z/28?

Maybe. But there are some coincidences here. The 5th gen Z28 was announced 10 years ago as an end of year model. Here we are at the ends of the 6th gen model and a special car coming. I just feel like GM is hyping this up to much to be just a “sticker package” Lots of people say that it would cost GM too much money to put into a dying platform at this point. But what if they already did all of the research and investment early on. Wishful thinking? Maybe. But I like to see the glass as half full. 🤷*♂️

RamAir02 · 03-27-2023, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Maybe. But there are some coincidences here. The 5th gen Z28 was announced 10 years ago as an end of year model. Here we are at the ends of the 6th gen model and a special car coming. I just feel like GM is hyping this up to much to be just a “sticker package” Lots of people say that it would cost GM too much money to put into a dying platform at this point. But what if they already did all of the research and investment early on. Wishful thinking? Maybe. But I like to see the glass as half full. ��*♂️

Hyping it up too much? Chevy put out a press release with minimal info and a lackluster video celebrating the sixth gen, but erroneously included several 5th gens

I wish as well, but just am not seeing it

Martinjlm · 03-27-2023, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Maybe. But there are some coincidences here. The 5th gen Z28 was announced 10 years ago as an end of year model. Here we are at the ends of the 6th gen model and a special car coming. I just feel like GM is hyping this up to much to be just a “sticker package” Lots of people say that it would cost GM too much money to put into a dying platform at this point. But what if they already did all of the research and investment early on. Wishful thinking? Maybe. But I like to see the glass as half full. 🤷*♂️

I think Al is pointing out that it was 10 years ago at the New York Auto Show where he got to introduce the Z/28. New York Auto Show press days (where new cars are introduced) is next week. And no, Chevrolet does not have a press conference scheduled, so no surprise Camaro announcements. Hate to rain on anybody's wishful parade. Nothing on the press conference schedule.

FarmerFran · 03-27-2023, 08:57 PM

Came in quiet, road the wave quiet, goes out quiet.

I like the interaction when people find out that it is unique. They are like "how did I miss that",

Welp you did.

arpad_m · 03-27-2023, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Maybe. But there are some coincidences here. The 5th gen Z28 was announced 10 years ago as an end of year model. Here we are at the ends of the 6th gen model and a special car coming. I just feel like GM is hyping this up to much to be just a “sticker package” Lots of people say that it would cost GM too much money to put into a dying platform at this point. But what if they already did all of the research and investment early on. Wishful thinking? Maybe. But I like to see the glass as half full. 🤷*♂️

Not a chance, unfortunately.

There would've been leaks long ago, no manufacturer can simply pull a brand new trim or refresh out of their hats, and as it was reiterated several times on these forums, GM abandoned the Camaro in late 2018 and has kept it on cheap life support while it made sense. Them recertifying the car ($$$) due to substantial design changes, then cutting a short 2024 model year with naturally limited production is very, very, very unlikely.

Silveradoss573 · 03-27-2023, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Check out this post from Al Oppenheiser. Original chief engineer of Camaro. Is this a hint to what’s coming!!!

Sweet...a 2014 Z/28. Looking forward to it.

l008com · 03-28-2023, 05:21 AM

I readily admit, I didn't read the 26 pages of this post. I just wanted to make a comment anyway, which is:

I'm sure GM was crying 'sales sales sales' defending axing this car. But the dropping sales numbers correspond to the 6th generation, and the 6th generation corresponds with the price going way up.

Not only that but lease rates have been GOD AWFUL for years. My 2013 lease was an absolutely steal. The total cost of the lease was about 1/3 the total price of the car. Since then, including right now, a lease on one of these cars tens to cost about 2/3 the price of the car. That is a borderline scam.

No wonder sales have gone down. They already have a high end sports car. Maybe they should have tried to keep the camaro's focus on people who wanted a simple, affordable, rear wheel drive fun car to drive.

I'm sad but I'm not that sad. By the time I'm in the market for a sports car again, the 7th gen camaro will probably be back

vj123 · 03-28-2023, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Check out this post from Al Oppenheiser. Original chief engineer of Camaro. Is this a hint to what’s coming!!!

If there was one, I think GM would have included some information in the previous GM press release as there isnt enough time left.

detamble13 · 03-28-2023, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Check out this post from Al Oppenheiser. Original chief engineer of Camaro. Is this a hint to what’s coming!!!

I remember the Z/28 announcement sort of made up for the refresh. Unfortunately Al is probably not hinting at anything here.

LateBrakeU2 · 03-28-2023, 08:32 AM

All you have to do is look at the past to see the future-tape and badging Z4C on the 02, and that wasn't in the teeth of an electric religion race. FYI China and India are building on average two new coal plants per week, they ain't in the race,we are doing laps by ourselves.

GearheadSS · 03-28-2023, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 02fbody35th

Maybe. But there are some coincidences here. The 5th gen Z28 was announced 10 years ago as an end of year model. Here we are at the ends of the 6th gen model and a special car coming. I just feel like GM is hyping this up to much to be just a “sticker package” Lots of people say that it would cost GM too much money to put into a dying platform at this point. But what if they already did all of the research and investment early on. Wishful thinking? Maybe. But I like to see the glass as half full. 🤷*♂️

He's not hinting at anything. All he did was post a Facebook memory to instagram.

Carzzy · 03-28-2023, 11:34 AM

Funny how the '23 Challenger is going out with a bang and the '24 Camaro is going out with a whisper!

03-27-2023, 08:57 PM	#356
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,039	Came in quiet, road the wave quiet, goes out quiet. I like the interaction when people find out that it is unique. They are like "how did I miss that", Welp you did. __________________ 2023 Camaro ZL1 Vert TR-6060 Sharkskin "Sharky" Firecracker Red Wrangler Willys, 3.6L eTorque, 850RE 8 speed automatic, 25W Willys package, Technology Group, Convenience Group (aka $600 garage door opener), Cold weather Group, Trailer Tow and HD electric group with AUX switches, 3 piece black freedom top.

03-28-2023, 05:21 AM	#359
l008com Drives: 2013 1LT Crystal Red/Beige Manual Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Stoneham, MA Posts: 735	I readily admit, I didn't read the 26 pages of this post. I just wanted to make a comment anyway, which is: I'm sure GM was crying 'sales sales sales' defending axing this car. But the dropping sales numbers correspond to the 6th generation, and the 6th generation corresponds with the price going way up. Not only that but lease rates have been GOD AWFUL for years. My 2013 lease was an absolutely steal. The total cost of the lease was about 1/3 the total price of the car. Since then, including right now, a lease on one of these cars tens to cost about 2/3 the price of the car. That is a borderline scam. No wonder sales have gone down. They already have a high end sports car. Maybe they should have tried to keep the camaro's focus on people who wanted a simple, affordable, rear wheel drive fun car to drive. I'm sad but I'm not that sad. By the time I'm in the market for a sports car again, the 7th gen camaro will probably be back __________________ FS: 245/50R19 Snow Tires

03-28-2023, 11:34 AM	#364
Carzzy Drives: '24 Camaro 2SS Conv. & '21Blazer Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 517 View My Garage	Funny how the '23 Challenger is going out with a bang and the '24 Camaro is going out with a whisper! __________________ '24 Camaro 2SS 6M Convertible

03-28-2023, 08:32 AM	#362
LateBrakeU2 Drives: 15 RH Z/28, 23 RB2SS1LE, 23LT1VOM Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: So Cal Posts: 823	All you have to do is look at the past to see the future-tape and badging Z4C on the 02, and that wasn't in the teeth of an electric religion race. FYI China and India are building on average two new coal plants per week, they ain't in the race,we are doing laps by ourselves.

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