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Old 06-03-2015, 09:31 PM   #1
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1LE/ Track Package(s)

Haven't seen much talk about possible future packages and performance versions. I think it's safe to say a ZL1 or Z28 is highly possible, but with magnetic dampers being optional on an already track capable SS, (and every other version), what do yall think about a successor to the 1LE package? Would it be the year after the release? Or would the higher end package come out first?
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Old 06-03-2015, 09:47 PM   #2
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If I had to guess I would say the ZL1 would come out first then a Z28 or 1LE after that. Just a guess
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Old 06-03-2015, 09:59 PM   #3
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If I had to guess I would say the ZL1 would come out first then a Z28 or 1LE after that. Just a guess
I just don't see what the 1LE would consist of, other than just tweaking minor things, magnetic dampers are already available on any 6th gen and that was really the major game changer for the 1LE in the gen5.
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:15 PM   #4
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Yeah they really don't need a 1LE just go straight to the Z28
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:17 PM   #5
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Stiffer sway bars and square tired setup to reduce under steer. Although the SS is faster it has offset tire and most likely similar under steer compared to the current SS. The 1LE could also have stickier tires, shorter gear ratios, telemetry recorded, completion seats, aero kit for more downforce, brake ducts and side piston brake upgrade....and I'm sure I missed things that should or could be included.
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:19 PM   #6
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If/when the 1LE comes out, it will probably follow the same formula. Maybe wider wheel/tire combo, with more aggressive compound. Slightly stiffer suspension that will be a bit better suited to the capabilities of wheels/tires. A little shorter gearing. Now, these might all be options and then you wouldn't need the 1LE. But by creating the 1LE package it makes things simple and should/could be cheaper than ordering options one at a time. We'll see.
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:20 PM   #7
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Going straight to Z28 doesn't make sense, the 1LE is just $3,500 and future Z28 will be a lot closer to the gt350r at $60k. Totally leaves an entire segment of buyers with nothing to buy and Camaro with nothing to embarras the GTPP even worse then the standard SS.
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:47 PM   #8
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Since the 6gen SS will beat around the track the 15' 1LE prob with the optional MRC I just don't see a need for a new 1LE and the new SS with MRC would easily take care of the GTPP. The Z28 would be a direct competitior to the GT350 and 350R. The Z28 should be right around the price range of $60k to compete with the GT350R
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:53 PM   #9
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Stiffer sway bars and square tired setup to reduce under steer. Although the SS is faster it has offset tire and most likely similar under steer compared to the current SS. The 1LE could also have stickier tires, shorter gear ratios, telemetry recorded, completion seats, aero kit for more downforce, brake ducts and side piston brake upgrade....and I'm sure I missed things that should or could be included.
Great points. But by the way that sounds it's almost as if you were talking about a z28! The current 1LE is great and I feel like the ss is basic, 1LE is mid grade, and z28 is top notch, zl1 is kind of it's own thing. The current 1LE is a $3,500 upgrade which really isn't bad at all for all you get, and I'm curious to see if they take it up another tier and maybe have a 1LE packaged camaro in the $45-50k range?
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:55 PM   #10
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Here's how I would build it. If GM builds it like this, I would trade up.
LT1, dry sump with no AFM
Torsen LSD from Z/28
MM6 TR6060 and 3.91 rear gears
Monotube hydraulic dampers on all four corners
Stiffer springs, sways and bushings over SS
Square tires on forged wheels
6 piston front, 4 piston rear Brembos with two piece rotors
Full aero
Different heat extractor on hood, similar to ATS-V, CTS-V and C7
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:22 AM   #11
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I was just looking at introduction of the 2013 1LE on Camaro5. Because that 1LE was built from ZL1 parts, do you think they will do the same for the Gen6? I can see that happening. I think it all comes down to cost, because while it was base off the base SS, I feel, that this would happen again. Since the Gen6 SS was "faster around the track" than the current 1LE, when introduced at the reveal, I really feel it will be base off ZL1 parts again, like the 5th gen. Especially now with MRC. All I know is...I JUST WANT IT...badly.
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Old 06-04-2015, 12:36 AM   #12
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1LE for 6th gen should compete out of the box very close or with the GT350 at around $49k base to 54tk all in with a newly developed high redline NA engine.

I also think GM needs to change interiors for track specific cars as to NOT be generic. Figure that if GM looked at what the 1LE and Z/28 have sold...and have confidence...they would offer upgraded interior packages suited for the intended purposes of the model. Most (not all) 1LE owners spend $3k to 15k extra on their 1LE's in aftermarket upgrades so 1 to 2k extra for an interior different than other Camaros and track specific is marketable. I understand GM may be reluctant to theme an interior specifically geared to inspire aesthetics...but then again...you build a purpose built car...do something with the darned interior GM.

Yea..the 1LE is nice...love mine...but the interior is no damned different than any other Camaro...get on the bandwagon like Ford and do something special for the track pack crowd. All GM did was take parts from the ZL1 and slap them on and called it a 1LE...time for GM to step up and CREATE an affordable and track specific car from the ground up. I'd expect a nominal price increase over the 13-15 1LE's sure...but if you create something different...more track orientated and better...people ALWAYS find and make a way to get what they want if they know what the packages are ahead of time and the thought that went into it.

The Z/28 if green lit for 6th gen must exceed the bar Fords GT350 R raised..and like the 5th gen...will be the last installment. Think about it...read up on what the GT350 R brings to the table and....what it REALLY is....and the reported performance around Nürburgring for the 350 R is a full 5 seconds over the Z...and at 15k less. May it meet or exceed other performance benchmarks the Z/28 set? Thats has yet to be seen.*

ZL1 first...1LE second...Z/28 third...or if at all. I'm no marketing genius...but that GT350 R really has me thinking...and excited...and possibly will buy one...and keeping 13 1LE.

From factory...base 1LE performs close to competition and could exceed with mods...higher end 1LE to directly compete with competition for 5 to 6k more (and still costs less than competition) ...then Z/28 exceeding bench competition set forth.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:02 AM   #13
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Since the 6gen SS will beat around the track the 15' 1LE prob with the optional MRC I just don't see a need for a new 1LE and the new SS with MRC would easily take care of the GTPP. The Z28 would be a direct competitior to the GT350 and 350R. The Z28 should be right around the price range of $60k to compete with the GT350R
Yes the SS is faster but still now way with those tires will make track junkies that bought the current 1LE happy because it is leaving so much on the table. You really have to drive both to their limits to understand thugs difference between the the two. Like I said before I am highly confident the base SS will have more understeer than the current 1LE and all of the little things the 1LE have should be in the performance package. In addition the aero components on the 1LE are incredible compared to try SS which actually has lift at high Speeds.nthe 1LE stays planted to the road.

The z28 will have the lighter components and carbon ceramic brakes plus dsv dampers, and other far more expensive components plus possible more HP.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:09 AM   #14
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Remember the Z28 can run six seconds quicker on a dry track, the best the was recorded with wet conditions so even if The reported 350R times are accurate thebZ28 is still a little faster on than track. With that said that is close enough imo to be in the same league on most tracks. Can't wait to see the comparisons soln
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