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Old 10-25-2016, 06:21 PM   #1
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Reliability

Q. What do Lexus, Toyota, Buick, Audi, Kia, Mazda, Hyundai, Infiniti, BMW, Honda, Subaru, Acura, Nissan and Mini all have in common?

A. They all beat Chevy on reliability. (in that order, Consumer Reports 10/24/16)

However, they did score better than Ford. And WAY above the bottom dwellers Dodge & Chrysler.

Celebrate or work harder?

Kia in the top 5?

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-r...they-stack-up/
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:36 PM   #2
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Communist Reports is far from a reliable source of information.
Quantify the data, I don't buy it for a second.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:42 PM   #3
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lol Consumer Reports.

Good for toilet paper and not much else.
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Old 10-25-2016, 06:58 PM   #4
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Hmmmm We know that, I wonder if it affects GP purchase decision?

JD Powers just says "Better than most" for dependability.

http://www.jdpower.com/ratings/study...by-Make/846ENG

I subscribed to CR once. That was enough to notice none of their ratings seemed to resemble my real-life experience.

Wonder why the media puts so much emphasis on CR?
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:18 PM   #5
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Yeah, until the warranty runs out.
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Old 10-25-2016, 07:44 PM   #6
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Q. What do Lexus, Toyota, Buick, Audi, Kia, Mazda, Hyundai, Infiniti, BMW, Honda, Subaru, Acura, Nissan and Mini all have in common?

A. They all beat Chevy on reliability. (in that order, Consumer Reports 10/24/16)

However, they did score better than Ford. And WAY above the bottom dwellers Dodge & Chrysler.

Celebrate or work harder?

Kia in the top 5?

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-r...they-stack-up/
My Fiance has a Kia, she bought new in 2011. Almost 90k miles later we haven't done anything but change oil, tires, battery, and filters....
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:29 PM   #7
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Hmm, did Fiat and Land Rover also make the list?
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:34 PM   #8
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Your best source for this info is JD Power. Thats what the automotive industry uses to gauge their own products.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:54 PM   #9
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How come Buick has better reliability than chevy? They both made by GM, mostly using the same parts lol..
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:05 PM   #10
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How come Buick has better reliability than chevy? They both made by GM lol..
Why does the Buick cost more?
Better parts. A lot of little things you may not notice like steel tubing instead of rubber vacuum lines, upgraded bearing materials on the crankshaft, etc.
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Old 10-25-2016, 09:31 PM   #11
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Yeah, until the warranty runs out.
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Q. What do Lexus, Toyota, Buick, Audi, Kia, Mazda, Hyundai, Infiniti, BMW, Honda, Subaru, Acura, Nissan and Mini all have in common?

A. They all beat Chevy on reliability. (in that order, Consumer Reports 10/24/16)

However, they did score better than Ford. And WAY above the bottom dwellers Dodge & Chrysler.

Celebrate or work harder?

Kia in the top 5?

http://www.consumerreports.org/car-r...they-stack-up/
Infiniti and BMW beat Chevy in reliability. WOW. I complain and had engine parts failure but dude no German car I ever owned was ever as reliable as my 2012 Camaro SS. None.
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Old 10-25-2016, 11:28 PM   #14
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Yes poster #3, competition around the world has brought the quality of cars (and everything else) up. I think that if you really read Consumer Reports you would realize that not everything that is expensive is necessarily the best. I realize that you would scoff at an organization that collects data, and reports it out in a fashion that doesn't make our country ( or better yet, your company ) come out on top, not fit your narrative. We have (thankfully) moved beyond a time when (knucklehead) auto workers put marbles in the frame rails of the cars that they built. I will still buy a Camaro, as it is what I want to do. My eternal hope is that the engineers design in quality and it gets executed on the assembly line. Short of that, I will pay the aftermarket to repair the product that I choose to buy and bitch about how overpaid those in your industry are (for the quality level turned out). Amen.
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