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Mikes SS · 07-09-2012, 10:00 AM

I guess if I decided to change out the cam now with the LS9 one for rather inexpensive price and modest gain, I wouldn't have to do a cam swap if I decide to later on throw a maggie on it..sounds too good to be true!

DangerZL1 · 07-09-2012, 11:47 AM

Im questioning whether or not it would be safe to install tha LS9 cam and a CAI without a tune. From reading other threads a CAI alone is questionable.

Camarowguy · 07-09-2012, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DangerZL1

Im questioning whether or not it would be safe to install tha LS9 cam and a CAI without a tune. From reading other threads a CAI alone is questionable.

It's been said you can. In my opinion, if your not willing to reflash for a gain, I definitely wouldn't take apart my new car and put a cam in it.

GearBangr · 07-09-2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

It's been said you can. In my opinion, if your not willing to reflash for a gain, I definitely wouldn't take apart my new car and put a cam in it.

I think what the point is to try not voiding the warranty. A tune would raise a red flag.
As would a cam, but it would be harder to detect. A cai takes 5 minutes to return to stock.
And I'm pretty sure the pcm records the number of times its been reflashed.

Camarowguy · 07-09-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GearBangr

I think what the point is to try not voiding the warranty. A tune would raise a red flag.
As would a cam, but it would be harder to detect. A cai takes 5 minutes to return to stock.
And I'm pretty sure the pcm records the number of times its been reflashed.

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Russell James · 07-09-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stingr69

LS-9 cam is a 25 HP gain for a normally aspirated LS-3. You will also need the 3-bolt cam timing gear. No other changes required. I put one in during a supercharger install and I am happy with it. Smooth idle and no tune changes required. A custom tune is allways good to have but the powertrain warranty goes away so decide for yourself if that makes a difference to you or not.

-Mark.

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A supercharger and cam install on an LS3... on the stock tune?

I would think with FI, the tune becomes so important to avoid detonation... any big change like the cam would call for new tuning.

I'd also think anyone doing a cam, would have lost the warranty on other mods like headers. The engine basically being an air compressor, you'd want to increase the air in and out, increase intercooling... then go for internal mods. A bigger cam in a choked off, overheated, stock tuned engine is not going to be making the most of the internal mods.

Camarowguy · 07-09-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell James

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A supercharger and cam install on an LS3... on the stock tune?

I would think with FI, the tune becomes so important to avoid detonation... any big change like the cam would call for new tuning.

I'd also think anyone doing a cam, would have lost the warranty on other mods like headers. The engine basically being an air compressor, you'd want to increase the air in and out, increase intercooling... then go for internal mods. A bigger cam in a choked off, overheated, stock tuned engine is not going to be making the most of the internal mods.

I guess what I was getting at is if your willing to do a cam, chances are your going to do other mods and a tune SHOULD be one of them.

Mikes SS · 07-10-2012, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Camarowguy

I guess what I was getting at is if your willing to do a cam, chances are your going to do other mods and a tune SHOULD be one of them.

yeah but for a person who wants a little more grunt and wants to keep their warranty in tact until it expires, seems like the LS9 cam would be as great bang for the buck and then warranty expires...woops looks like I need long tube headers and a tune now, should be a good 50-60hp jump with a tune. I don't see the downside here if these claims can be supported!

Whorable MPG1975 · 07-10-2012, 11:27 AM

Who the hell wants a sleeper cam for ZL1 Camaro??? Or any Camaro for that matter??? Either way, ZR1 cam would be cool but why not a cam from like Mast Motorsports? A cam and spring package is not that much money compared to the price of a new ZL1 or much more than a ZR1 cam for that matter. Whats another $300-$400 bucks anyways to get a cam that will deliver AND sound awesome?

MrDew · 08-10-2012, 10:54 AM

So, has anyone tried installing the LS9 cam yet?
Hard to beat a price of less than $100 bucks for the cam alone... (even if the gains arent as big as with another A/M cams)

*radz28* · 08-10-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDew

So, has anyone tried installing the LS9 cam yet?
Hard to beat a price of less than $100 bucks for the cam alone... (even if the gains arent as big as with another A/M cams)

For someone like me, this cam is probably a great choice. Because of where I am, sniffer is as important as the visual. I've been thinking about this idea... I'm looking forward to seeing if anyone else has tried this

b4z · 08-11-2012, 12:12 PM

Can I assume it's cam will work well with a LS2 with LS3heads?

Warren · 03-25-2013, 07:29 AM

ls9 cam in my zl1 made 622HP 605tq, auto trans, headers, upper and lower pulley. i used the ls9 springs and think i had valve float. only pulled to 5800 rpm. changed the springs and we are gonna dyno it again. yes they are cams that make more power and everyone claims stock drivability, but if you can hear it lope, it will not drive 100 percent stock. my wife drives this car and can not tell the difference! you only know it when you gas it and it gets side ways at 70mph.

LeanPocket · 03-25-2013, 08:30 AM

The ls9 cam swap is a common practice in the truck world. 40hp gains are the norm, and its very budget friendly.

depending if ur a l99 or ls3.. this is basically all u need..

Blue LS6 springs
LS9 Cam
3 bolt 4x trigger cam gear
3 bolts for the cam (same as the cover bolts)
LS2 timing cover
LS2 crank seal
LS2/LS3/LS7/L92/L76 timing chain dampener (wedge block style 12588670)
6qts of oil
oil filter
2 gallons of Dex-Cool antifreeze

results:
http://m.performancetrucks.net/forum...d.php?t=490303

07-09-2012, 10:00 AM	#29
Mikes SS Drives: '10 CGM 2SS/RS 6M Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North Central Florida Posts: 1,032 View My Garage	I guess if I decided to change out the cam now with the LS9 one for rather inexpensive price and modest gain, I wouldn't have to do a cam swap if I decide to later on throw a maggie on it..sounds too good to be true!

07-09-2012, 11:47 AM	#30
DangerZL1 Drives: 2023 Black ZL1 Auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: FEMA Region 4 Posts: 2,935	Im questioning whether or not it would be safe to install tha LS9 cam and a CAI without a tune. From reading other threads a CAI alone is questionable.

07-10-2012, 11:27 AM	#37
Whorable MPG1975 I'd rather be Blown. Drives: 1975 CAMARO 454ciBBC/TKO-600 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Japan, Yokosuka Posts: 148	Who the hell wants a sleeper cam for ZL1 Camaro??? Or any Camaro for that matter??? Either way, ZR1 cam would be cool but why not a cam from like Mast Motorsports? A cam and spring package is not that much money compared to the price of a new ZL1 or much more than a ZR1 cam for that matter. Whats another $300-$400 bucks anyways to get a cam that will deliver AND sound awesome?

08-10-2012, 10:54 AM	#38
MrDew Drives: 2012 ZL1 #165 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Switzerland (no longer Houston, TX) :-( Posts: 479 View My Garage	So, has anyone tried installing the LS9 cam yet? Hard to beat a price of less than $100 bucks for the cam alone... (even if the gains arent as big as with another A/M cams)

08-11-2012, 12:12 PM	#40
b4z Drives: '06 Pontiac GTO M6, '19 F150 2.7TT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 1,425	Can I assume it's cam will work well with a LS2 with LS3heads?

03-25-2013, 07:29 AM	#41
Warren Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Ms Posts: 24	ls9 cam in my zl1 made 622HP 605tq, auto trans, headers, upper and lower pulley. i used the ls9 springs and think i had valve float. only pulled to 5800 rpm. changed the springs and we are gonna dyno it again. yes they are cams that make more power and everyone claims stock drivability, but if you can hear it lope, it will not drive 100 percent stock. my wife drives this car and can not tell the difference! you only know it when you gas it and it gets side ways at 70mph.

03-25-2013, 08:30 AM	#42
LeanPocket Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Corpus Christi TX Posts: 634	The ls9 cam swap is a common practice in the truck world. 40hp gains are the norm, and its very budget friendly. depending if ur a l99 or ls3.. this is basically all u need.. Blue LS6 springs LS9 Cam 3 bolt 4x trigger cam gear 3 bolts for the cam (same as the cover bolts) LS2 timing cover LS2 crank seal LS2/LS3/LS7/L92/L76 timing chain dampener (wedge block style 12588670) 6qts of oil oil filter 2 gallons of Dex-Cool antifreeze results: http://m.performancetrucks.net/forum...d.php?t=490303