Tuning a 2017

BravoMyles · 08-07-2016, 02:26 PM

I read over in the F/I section that tuning on a 2017 is almost impossible right now, or so it seems.

Could someone explain to me why and how? Just got my 2017 SS 3 weeks ago and it's a bit disheartening to learn that I may not be able to do much, unless someone finds out a way to tune them.

So far I haven't seen any other 2017's other than my own, so I'm not seeing a lot of talk about them. Just really wanting some clarification on whether I'm screwed for a while until tuning is figured out for them, of if this is something that could be permanent.

GTFORMULA · 08-07-2016, 04:06 PM

I just got a 2017 also. From what I've read, they use a newer software that has not been cracked yet. I'm sure in time it will happen. But it sucks to have to wait. The aftermarket for these cars is way slower compared to the Mustang side I'm from. I actually considered trading back to a Mustang from the lack of and cost of upgrades for the camaro.

BravoMyles · 08-07-2016, 06:33 PM

Coming from a 2010, it's odd. I don't want to wait, but I will if I have to. The 2010 was made mods and tuning so readily available. I don't intend on trading, but I'd like it to be tune-able sooner than later. Guess I'll have to learn patience.

raptor5244 · 08-07-2016, 07:21 PM

I would keep checking the HP Tuners Forum, here was a post from about a week ago.

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...Tuning-support

BravoMyles · 08-07-2016, 09:32 PM

There's another mention of it too on another section of that forum. Looks like HPTuners is looking for files or something. If that needs to come from a 2017 and they need files to dig through, I'd gladly let someone copy it from mine to help out.

Country Boy · 08-08-2016, 05:04 PM

Also keep in mind that if/ when you do tune, GM will know the PCM had been flashed if you take it for warranty work. A lot of people don't the know this.

BravoMyles · 08-08-2016, 07:23 PM

I know. My 2010 was tuned when it was still under warranty.

JaxChris · 08-08-2016, 10:26 PM

The ECU's since 2012 also track log devices connected to the ODBII port on top of just having a flash counter. Even if you defeat the flash counter, there is still a log file of device connections.

I think HPT is probably a year away from cracking the encryption. At this point, I'm sure they already took a dump of someones car. But if anyone will do it, the community at HPT will do it first.

Good luck to the 2017+ buyers.

ABADZL1 · 08-11-2016, 03:07 PM

I am currently testing a beta version of hp tuners for the 17's for the engineers. Please standby...

JaxChris · 08-11-2016, 07:24 PM

Testing it on your '13 ZL1....?

ABADZL1 · 08-11-2016, 07:33 PM

Testing it on a 50th 2017 2SS.

ABADZL1 · 08-11-2016, 07:34 PM

BravoMyles · 08-11-2016, 11:08 PM

Awesome. I was offering my '17 to a tuner around my area, possibly taking it in next Friday so they can look at it. Hopefully it'll be doable sooner than later!

Gmanuel · 08-12-2016, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABADZL1

I am currently testing a beta version of hp tuners for the 17's for the engineers. Please standby...

This is great news, keep us posted!

08-07-2016, 02:26 PM	#1
BravoMyles Drives: Blue/Black 2017 1SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 495 View My Garage	Tuning a 2017 I read over in the F/I section that tuning on a 2017 is almost impossible right now, or so it seems. Could someone explain to me why and how? Just got my 2017 SS 3 weeks ago and it's a bit disheartening to learn that I may not be able to do much, unless someone finds out a way to tune them. So far I haven't seen any other 2017's other than my own, so I'm not seeing a lot of talk about them. Just really wanting some clarification on whether I'm screwed for a while until tuning is figured out for them, of if this is something that could be permanent. __________________ 2017 1SS - Hyper Blue Metallic Heads, Cam, e85, 3600 Stall, Full bolt-ons, MBRP exhaust 2010 2SS - Summit White - SOLD CAI intake, Borla Atak axle-back (Summit xpipe resonator delete), custom ported TB, Texas Speed 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ Catless connections Instagram: bravomyles

08-07-2016, 06:33 PM	#3
BravoMyles Drives: Blue/Black 2017 1SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 495 View My Garage	Coming from a 2010, it's odd. I don't want to wait, but I will if I have to. The 2010 was made mods and tuning so readily available. I don't intend on trading, but I'd like it to be tune-able sooner than later. Guess I'll have to learn patience. __________________ 2017 1SS - Hyper Blue Metallic Heads, Cam, e85, 3600 Stall, Full bolt-ons, MBRP exhaust 2010 2SS - Summit White - SOLD CAI intake, Borla Atak axle-back (Summit xpipe resonator delete), custom ported TB, Texas Speed 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ Catless connections Instagram: bravomyles

08-07-2016, 07:21 PM	#4
raptor5244 Drives: 2022 CT4-V Blackwing Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 2,723	I would keep checking the HP Tuners Forum, here was a post from about a week ago. http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showth...Tuning-support __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Black - Sold 2013 Camaro SS 1LE - Black - M6 - Sold 2016 Camaro SS - Mosaic Black - A8 - Sold 2017 C7 Stingray - M7 Coupe - Sold 2019 C7 Grand Sport M7 Vert - Sold 2021 Camaro ZL1 - Black - A10 - Sold 2019 Tesla Model 3 2022 CT4-V Blackwing - M6

08-07-2016, 09:32 PM	#5
BravoMyles Drives: Blue/Black 2017 1SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 495 View My Garage	There's another mention of it too on another section of that forum. Looks like HPTuners is looking for files or something. If that needs to come from a 2017 and they need files to dig through, I'd gladly let someone copy it from mine to help out. __________________ 2017 1SS - Hyper Blue Metallic Heads, Cam, e85, 3600 Stall, Full bolt-ons, MBRP exhaust 2010 2SS - Summit White - SOLD CAI intake, Borla Atak axle-back (Summit xpipe resonator delete), custom ported TB, Texas Speed 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ Catless connections Instagram: bravomyles

08-08-2016, 07:23 PM	#7
BravoMyles Drives: Blue/Black 2017 1SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 495 View My Garage	I know. My 2010 was tuned when it was still under warranty. __________________ 2017 1SS - Hyper Blue Metallic Heads, Cam, e85, 3600 Stall, Full bolt-ons, MBRP exhaust 2010 2SS - Summit White - SOLD CAI intake, Borla Atak axle-back (Summit xpipe resonator delete), custom ported TB, Texas Speed 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ Catless connections Instagram: bravomyles

08-07-2016, 04:06 PM	#2
GTFORMULA Drives: 2017 camaro ss Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Fl Posts: 11	I just got a 2017 also. From what I've read, they use a newer software that has not been cracked yet. I'm sure in time it will happen. But it sucks to have to wait. The aftermarket for these cars is way slower compared to the Mustang side I'm from. I actually considered trading back to a Mustang from the lack of and cost of upgrades for the camaro.

08-08-2016, 05:04 PM	#6
Country Boy Drives: Eh.. Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: FL Posts: 77	Also keep in mind that if/ when you do tune, GM will know the PCM had been flashed if you take it for warranty work. A lot of people don't the know this.

08-08-2016, 10:26 PM	#8
JaxChris Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,298	The ECU's since 2012 also track log devices connected to the ODBII port on top of just having a flash counter. Even if you defeat the flash counter, there is still a log file of device connections. I think HPT is probably a year away from cracking the encryption. At this point, I'm sure they already took a dump of someones car. But if anyone will do it, the community at HPT will do it first. Good luck to the 2017+ buyers.

08-11-2016, 03:07 PM	#9
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	I am currently testing a beta version of hp tuners for the 17's for the engineers. Please standby... __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

08-11-2016, 07:24 PM	#10
JaxChris Drives: '16 2SS GD1 MX0 NPP F55 IO6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 1,298	Testing it on your '13 ZL1....?

08-11-2016, 07:33 PM	#11
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	Testing it on a 50th 2017 2SS. __________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

08-11-2016, 07:34 PM	#12
ABADZL1 ZL1 Pilot Drives: 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: TN Posts: 1,670 View My Garage	__________________ GP Tuning 2.5 Cam, RPS Carbon Twin Clutch, Ported Blower, Kook's Headers, Cold Air Inductions CAI, ID850's, 9.17 Lower, 2.5 Upper, JMS BAP, Pedders Front Radius Arm Inserts, Whiteline Subframe Inserts, Tuned by me with HP Tuners Idle Clip Link...........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTL8S9eHwbs

08-11-2016, 11:08 PM	#13
BravoMyles Drives: Blue/Black 2017 1SS Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 495 View My Garage	Awesome. I was offering my '17 to a tuner around my area, possibly taking it in next Friday so they can look at it. Hopefully it'll be doable sooner than later! __________________ 2017 1SS - Hyper Blue Metallic Heads, Cam, e85, 3600 Stall, Full bolt-ons, MBRP exhaust 2010 2SS - Summit White - SOLD CAI intake, Borla Atak axle-back (Summit xpipe resonator delete), custom ported TB, Texas Speed 1 7/8" LT Headers w/ Catless connections Instagram: bravomyles

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