01-30-2022, 08:09 AM | #309 | |
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I think this speaks to the leverage and power of persuasion individual teams/divisions within the company have. The Camaro has obviously become the red headed stepchild, and it is also easy to see that there still are many performance enthusiasts and outstanding professionals at gm—it's just that the company as a whole is betting hard on the latest vogue they feel will succeed, as most large corporations do, yet sometimes these enthusiasts can punch through the ceiling, so to speak.
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01-30-2022, 10:30 AM | #310 |
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It's because people are pissed that GM has basically abandoned the Camaro yet again. They see the things Dodge and Ford are doing to improve their cars in this class and are wondering why the hell Gm isn’t following suit. I expect quite a few to actually change sides just because they don't like the leadership GM has now. It's an open forum you're going to get all kinds of threads so just like you said if you don't like the material being discussed don't open the thread and move on.
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01-30-2022, 10:32 AM | #311 | |
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01-30-2022, 10:38 AM | #312 |
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Spend a little time on the Hellcat forum, it’s full of engine failures. All things mechanical will fail at some point just some sooner then others.
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01-30-2022, 10:45 AM | #313 | |
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it doesn't take any more or less skill to appreciate the alpha chassis in this designation. if one has been around ANY kind of racing for more than 5 years it is wildly evident that the cars work very well, on all tracks, doing everything.
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01-30-2022, 11:21 AM | #314 |
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I've said this many many times.
You can't just add stickers to cars and expect them to sell. A 10 hp boost or so each year to each model would have kept the Camaro relevant whether it needed it or not. We would be at a 500hp SS and a 700hp ZL1 by now. Don't tell me the cost would be too much, GM pisses away more money than our government does. -Bobby
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01-30-2022, 12:34 PM | #315 |
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That's why I said neither are a good example for durability. Ford is just as bad. I expect there to be many problems with the new Z06 coming with its new flat plane engine.
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01-30-2022, 05:03 PM | #316 | |
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01-30-2022, 05:32 PM | #317 |
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I’m very surprised the current ZL1 did not get a bump in horsepower after Ford started selling the GT500.
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01-30-2022, 06:17 PM | #318 |
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it couldnt be that many of the people that buy the top dog V8s dog the crap out of them until they blow up,right?not just chevy,but ford and dodge and yes even hondas have engines that expire before they should due to heavy right feet.
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That's not really fair because a modern Lambo has all kinds of electronics for launching too. So, you could take pretty much any modern car with decent power and do the same thing against drag racers who didn't have electronics launching for them.
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01-30-2022, 09:28 PM | #321 | |
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Case in point, last time I went there was a Tesla Model X that ran within 0.1 seconds every single time, like clockwork, until the battery ran low. Driver did absolutely nothing, no prep, no drag tires, not even lowering tire pressures, just lined up and kept the pedal to the floor all the way. No need to actually compete, one can simply compare spec sheets. Yawn. (Now I will say having an automatic trans like the one in my car takes a big chunk out of the fun already, so it's not like I'd be a hardcore drag racer, this is only a simple observation.)
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