[Kracka]

Originally Posted by Dropspeed

From a cost stand point both aluminum and ceramic coat would increase the BOM price over steel/powder...

We all know everyone wants the "best performance" for the "lowest cost" so they have to take that into consideration and find the happy medium to sell the product.

Adding weight over the front wheels is never a good idea. Ceramic coating shouldn't add much cost vs. powdercoating, but yes, aluminum does cost more. For all the work Chevy put into cutting weigh though, I think its worth it.

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by Kracka

Instead of powdercoated steel, have you considered ceramic coated aluminum?

Powdercoated steel was the best option for us. We wanted to be sure we would end up with a great price when this intake becomes available and aluminum was not the best choice for that. But that wasn't the only reason we sided with steel here. It won't affect performance at all - intake air temperatures will not be affected by the steel box and the weight gains will be very minimal. The added power will also make up for it!

[Illmaticz]

Wow, great job guys and thanks for all the info. I am looking forward to this.

[vtirocz]

Originally Posted by Mishimoto

You're welcome! We won't be supplying a tune with this intake, but it would be interesting to see what a tune would do! You're perfectly safe running this kit without a tune, but you would definitely see some great gains with one.



A CEL will not be a concern in the future. In order to make power with an intake, a byproduct is leaning the car out - which is a good thing! You want more airflow into the engine to produce more power. Our intake only leaned it out by a very relatively small amount, but it's important to note that it did. Hope this helps!



Thanks! We were sure to listen to you guys and do the testing you wanted to see!

Our testing really revolved around replacing the entire stock unit as a whole, not only one part of it. The enlarged tube is a major part of our design and the development centered around improving all around airflow - not just from the filter. In fact, we saw no difference in output with our prototype sans filter. If we are able to conduct further testing on the stock unit, we can definitely see if any gains exist on the stock intake from filter removal. Hope this helps!



The bulk weight of the steel components for this design come mainly from the airbox. Our current estimate is an added 6-7lbs. It's hard to tell the exact weight difference between the two systems right now because all we have is the prototype, but we will have official numbers once our final prototype is complete.



Tim,

When looking at both the horsepower/torque and AFR curves, you see there is an increase in power and airflow (due to it leaning out). Based on that, you can tell we are getting an increased amount of airflow. As for specific MAP numbers, we don't have that level of specific information as of yet, but there is still more testing to be done on the production sample when we get one into our R&D facility. Hope this helps!

Regarding your comment in bold above, I think running without an air filter could impact the MAF signal so you may not only be testing the effect of filter restriction.

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by vtirocz

Regarding your comment in bold above, I think running without an air filter could impact the MAF signal so you may not only be testing the effect of filter restriction.

Thanks for your input! The resuts will really depend on the type of testing we do and the conditions we do the testing in - if we are able to do it. The good news is that with our design, the filter is not a restriction in any way.

[Nataphen]

Will your air box inlet be larger than stock? I know that the 5th gen benefitted from a larger than OEM air box opening in the bottom. Intakes like the Airaid were great except for the fact that they used the stock sized opening for the air box, and it bottlenecks before it even gets to the filter. I couldn't tell if anything was changed from looking at your renderings.

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by Nataphen

Will your air box inlet be larger than stock? I know that the 5th gen benefitted from a larger than OEM air box opening in the bottom. Intakes like the Airaid were great except for the fact that they used the stock sized opening for the air box, and it bottlenecks before it even gets to the filter. I couldn't tell if anything was changed from looking at your renderings.

Great question! The airbox opening is the same size as our enlarged MAF sensor housing, which is measured at 5 inches in diameter! The filter has an inlet diameter of 5 inches as well. So there is no stepping down or bottlenecking at the airbox inlet, the air comes right in at the 5 inch mark. Our previous design measured the MAF sensor housing at 4.5 inches, and that's where we decided to go bigger. Hope this helps!

[JoeAyalaM]

The "Classic V8" intake sound made by the larger intake, at least on the video on my computer, to me, sounds more like "old beater" V8 sound. I prefer the OEM sound much more.

Sorry guys, it´s just my take on this. I hope you can find a way to improove it, and I will certainly buy one, once my Camaro is delivered.

[Nataphen]

Originally Posted by Mishimoto

Great question! The airbox opening is the same size as our enlarged MAF sensor housing, which is measured at 5 inches in diameter! The filter has an inlet diameter of 5 inches as well. So there is no stepping down or bottlenecking at the airbox inlet, the air comes right in at the 5 inch mark. Our previous design measured the MAF sensor housing at 4.5 inches, and that's where we decided to go bigger. Hope this helps!

I appreciate the response, but I'm actually talking about the air box inlet before the filter. The "air scoop", if you will, on the bottom side of the air box that the air first enters before any other part of the intake system.

Edit: this part:

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by JoeAyalaM

The "Classic V8" intake sound made by the larger intake, at least on the video on my computer, to me, sounds more like "old beater" V8 sound. I prefer the OEM sound much more.

Sorry guys, it´s just my take on this. I hope you can find a way to improove it, and I will certainly buy one, once my Camaro is delivered.

Appreciate the input!

Originally Posted by Nataphen

I appreciate the response, but I'm actually talking about the air box inlet before the filter. The "air scoop", if you will, on the bottom side of the air box that the air first enters before any other part of the intake system.

Edit: this part:

That part will be shielded against the wheel well. It will be grabbing air from the same OEM scoop location. Check out this more up close image below:



Hope this helps!

[LesBaer]

I just read through your email on this and really want to thank you guys for not just pulling numbers out of your asses. This kind of communication...clean, simple, backup for your results is what I love to see. I'm definitely getting one.

I would just ask if you guys can include the option to add a second filter to the pre-sale offering. I like to have 2 on-hand, so I always have a clean one to pop on if the other is dirty.

Thanks again guys.

[Nataphen]

Thank you. I guess we'll have to see if that OEM inlet is a restriction at some point.

[Mishimoto]

Originally Posted by LesBaer

I just read through your email on this and really want to thank you guys for not just pulling numbers out of your asses. This kind of communication...clean, simple, backup for your results is what I love to see. I'm definitely getting one.

I would just ask if you guys can include the option to add a second filter to the pre-sale offering. I like to have 2 on-hand, so I always have a clean one to pop on if the other is dirty.

Thanks again guys.

Thank you for the kind words.

This kit can only come with one filter, but that filter is actually pre-oiled, so it's reusable! Our filters will allow you to run several thousand miles before they need to be cleaned. However, you can certainly buy this 5 inch filter separately and directly from us!

Originally Posted by Nataphen

Thank you. I guess we'll have to see if that OEM inlet is a restriction at some point.

You're welcome!

[Mishimoto]

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