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Moreno1 · 03-09-2013, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Synner

I've been meeting a lot of french models and people who think going n/a is a waste on the internet lately.

So much for "I trust the professionals to educate me on what works and what doesn't."

I'd rather read a post on the internet from someone who doesn't know anything about cars and get all excited. LOL. I'm a french model and a speed shop because I have over 200 posts, plus I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Ask me about my discounted rates on brain surgery...

davidcroft · 03-09-2013, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by litle88

^^^sounds like a GM engineer nut swinger to me!

So your answering my question with a lil ole GM Ls9 cam?
For FI

Then your gonna say that the GM ASA cam is the best for an NA BUILD too?

Nope I'm not gonna say the ASA cam is best for an N/A build. The only person I'd let spec a cam for me for an N/A build is Pat G. There can't be 1 cam that is the best for a specific N/A cam AND the best cam for that same car in a boosted application. My whole point guys!

You guys don't like my dealership bs? come on man...

litle88 · 03-09-2013, 09:35 AM

And still you have not answered my questions, I'm sorry man but I think you should stop you obviously have some more learning to do about cams and valve events.

Nightmare2012 · 03-09-2013, 10:15 AM

Shouldn't milling. 020-.030 get you to that 11.0-11.5 compression?

litle88 · 03-09-2013, 12:12 PM

Yea but I'd mill then measure then mill (if I could) to get to the sweetest spot possible then order pushrods accordingly. I'm kinda anal lol like that. But compression both dynamic and static are important as well to me at least cause if I'm going in its gonna be th whole way lol.

thahemp · 03-09-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Yea but I'd mill then measure then mill (if I could) to get to the sweetest spot possible then order pushrods accordingly. I'm kinda anal lol like that. But compression both dynamic and static are important as well to me at least cause if I'm going in its gonna be th whole way lol.

That's how babies are made.

Nightmare2012 · 03-09-2013, 02:05 PM

Lol and beasts!!!

WHAMMO · 03-09-2013, 08:31 PM

N/A is the way to go :P

Nightmare2012 · 03-09-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Yea but I'd mill then measure then mill (if I could) to get to the sweetest spot possible then order pushrods accordingly. I'm kinda anal lol like that. But compression both dynamic and static are important as well to me at least cause if I'm going in its gonna be th whole way lol.

What size pushrod will you use if you mill to an 11.5:1 compression?

thahemp · 03-09-2013, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

What size pushrod will you use if you mill to an 11.5:1 compression?

Does compression really matter? I thought that had mostly to do with cam profile and pushrod length.

litle88 · 03-09-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

What size pushrod will you use if you mill to an 11.5:1 compression?

Well figure you are in essence thinning the head if you will. So your pushrod length will need to shorten, but it's hard to guess and ALWAYS gotta measure.
Stock lengths are 7.4 FYI.

thahemp · 03-09-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

What size pushrod will you use if you mill to an 11.5:1 compression?

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Originally Posted by litle88

Well figure you are in essence thinning the head if you will. So your pushrod length will need to shorten, but it's hard to guess and ALWAYS gotta measure.
Stock lengths are 7.4 FYI.

Sorry guys... I thought you were talking 5/16" vs 3/8".

Part of the reason I know my car will be down for a week is because I have to order the pushrods after I have everything torn down. Gotta measure.

Nightmare2012 · 03-09-2013, 10:49 PM

Yea and that's my dilemma i already had ordered my push rods before and they are 7.350 so im hoping it's the right choice!

litle88 · 03-09-2013, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thahemp

Does compression really matter? I thought that had mostly to do with cam profile and pushrod length.

It makes for a better quench and free HP and TQ. A little better to tune. The profile had to do with dynamic compression. The pushrod length will be set to what the lifter preload is and the valve lash, It's set.
Hope I made sense, I'm boozin lol.

03-09-2013, 09:35 AM	#101
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	And still you have not answered my questions, I'm sorry man but I think you should stop you obviously have some more learning to do about cams and valve events. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-09-2013, 12:12 PM	#103
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Yea but I'd mill then measure then mill (if I could) to get to the sweetest spot possible then order pushrods accordingly. I'm kinda anal lol like that. But compression both dynamic and static are important as well to me at least cause if I'm going in its gonna be th whole way lol. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-09-2013, 08:31 PM	#106
WHAMMO Drives: 13' 1LE Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,643	N/A is the way to go :P __________________ 13' 1LE Old setup: TSP 231-236/Tick 660/.105 PR, UDP, SW LT 2'' & HFC, stock NPP & H pipe, VR-DRX CAI, air scoop, Goertz1 manifold, 102mm BBK, 26" Toyo DRs, Forgestars R17x10 & F18x8, rear seat delete, remote Pat G tune Autocal, 7400 limiter, Spec Mini Twin. 91oct. 11.90@122.3, 0-60ft 2.0 / 11.99@123.6, 0-60ft 2.1 DA+819 ...519RWHP SAE Solid roller SBE LS3, FED, LLSR, 91oct, 605rwhp N/A. Tuned by Pat G. Build by me.

03-09-2013, 10:15 AM	#102
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Shouldn't milling. 020-.030 get you to that 11.0-11.5 compression?

03-09-2013, 02:05 PM	#105
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Lol and beasts!!!

03-09-2013, 10:49 PM	#111
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	Yea and that's my dilemma i already had ordered my push rods before and they are 7.350 so im hoping it's the right choice!