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Yep, same weight for the L4 and for the V6 versions of the ATS-V.
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06-17-2015, 04:07 PM | #59 |
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Can't remember where/ which mag but I thought they weighed the v8 ats-v at something like 3760.
That's why I'm worried about the SS hitting the mark. It needs to weigh 30 lbs less than that for 2016 2ss, compared to the 2015 2ss, to hit the promised 200 lbs. The front brakes and calipers are smaller on the SS so that will help. Not saying it can't happen but I won't be convinced till they publish official specs. |
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Anyway, if you want to use magazines as the basis for comparison then find one that has a 2015 2SS and compare that against a magazine weighed 2016 2SS (ideally from the same publication that had the 5th gen). This will be rather difficult as there aren't that many 5th gens getting tested these days. It gets even more difficult if you were interested in say a 1SS or one of the V6s because I can't remember even seeing a 1SS in a magazine, LTs only rarely (and always a 2LT), and the LS may as well not even exist as far as the magazines are concerned. Or, you could just go by curb weights listed by the manufacturer as thats going to be the most consistent apples-to-apples comparison that you're going to get.
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The ats-v with twin turbo was weighed at 3760. http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...bathtub-page-2 |
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And I understand the clarification of comparing automatic transmissions. However I would say while the autos may not have the higher trap speeds they are easier to launch and I would think that would favor the more powerful LS1. I just have trouble picturing a scenario where a V6 6th Gen Camaro runs down the LS1 on the top end or being able to hold it off if it has a slight advantage in the 60ft. I’m not talking hero runs with pros at Atco in the spring. I mean solid magazine type runs from both. As has been mentioned and I think we all agree the 6th Gen V6 will close the gap from the 5th Gen V6 and should be solidly ahead of the LT1 4th Gens but I’m not quite ready yet to concede them bettering the LS1’s yet. However, I hope I’m wrong. That will say a lot of good about the 6th Gen! |
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