[ECCamaro]

Originally Posted by BLK MARO

I have a 2006 supercharged solstice. love the car its really fast since i put the supercharger on and handles really well. does burnouts pretty easy now. heres some pics.

Looks Just Great!

As some people have stated too bad the production line could not have been kept and transferred over to Chevrolet. However GM had to sell off Pontiac, Hummer, Holden, Saturn and Saab. They could not take some of the more popular lines into Chevrolet, Cadillac and Buick otherwise it would weaken the sale. However, since no-one seems to have purchased the the Pontiac and Saturn lines, perhaps they will remain unsold and GM could somehow reinstate some of the popular lines, without restarting the entier division.

[tonyko1]

Just saw a Pontiac Vibe at the local market, a woman about 184 yrs old was driving it.

Wasn't that car hyped for the young, with all kinds of outlets for I-pods and crap like that?

Also, wasn't that a joint venture with Toyota, badged as something else?

[swiftdog01]

Originally Posted by tonyko1

Just saw a Pontiac Vibe at the local market, a woman about 184 yrs old was driving it.

Wasn't that car hyped for the young, with all kinds of outlets for I-pods and crap like that?

Also, wasn't that a joint venture with Toyota, badged as something else?

You are correct. The Vibe and Toyota Matrix were the same car.

[Grey Ghost]

I was sad to see Pontiac go. Its the way of things though. Hopefully GM as a whole can stay strong and convince America to buy GM. It starts at the dealer though, quality of service sells more cars then anything else.
People stop buying a brand if the dealer doesn't deliver as promised by sales when it comes to service.
I have a 2006 HHR thats a real lemon, but the dealer always treats us fairly and does repairs at a decent cost. We need to squeeze another year out of it before replacing it with another car. Right now we are looking to get my wife a volt or maybe even a GMC truck. We will see what GM has to offer for 2015 models.

[babytiger]

I owned a 2000 grand prix, put 235,000 miles on it and never put a wrench to it (exclude battery, tires, maintenance etc). The 3.8 was bullet proof. R.I.P

[cosmos366]

I'll be hanging on to my Pontiac for a long time...

[GMTool]

Originally Posted by babytiger

I owned a 2000 grand prix, put 235,000 miles on it and never put a wrench to it (exclude battery, tires, maintenance etc). The 3.8 was bullet proof. R.I.P

I am just amazed of the amount of Grand Prix's I see on the road. From about 1997 to 2008, 6th and 7th Gens. And they are good looking cars too. It would be interesting to know the sales numbers from these years.

[SEOhioSS]

If Pontiac was still around i would be driving a Pontiac not a Camaro and I work at a Chevrolet Dealership. My family are huge Pontiac folks. We still have lots of them so it was sad for me to see them go even though i understand the business decision in shuttering the brand.

I hope to one day see more new Pontiac's, but i don't think that realization will happen anytime soon.

[purkel]

When I found out Pontiac was done and gone, I actually said "about time" to myself.

I love the 60's and 70's pontiacs, but I felt like they really lost themselves during the 80s, 90s and early 2000's.

They had a few nice sports cars, but the terribad sedans, SUVs and minivans they produced really ruined the brand.

I still cant wrap my head around how some of the styling was approved and signed off on... I know several car manufactures (mostly the US companies) had terrible styling at the same time, but Pontiac seemed like the worst to me.

[TROndrey]

I like what Buick has done to revitalize their lineup but I still think it should have been them, and not Pontiac who got put on the chopping block.

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[JoansDriver]

Originally Posted by TROndrey

I like what Buick has done to revitalize their lineup but I still think it should have been them, and not Pontiac who got put on the chopping block.

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Buick gets a lot of business from the rental car sector. At least that was my understanding why they survived, while Oldsmobile and Pontiac did not.

[tonyko1]

Buick also has one of the best brand loyalties in the biz. Plus, Buick's quality rating has been much better against anyone, including other GM brands, even when they had all of them before the meltdown.

Once when I was at GM Customer Service I had to call a Buick dealer that had a Chevy car that had broken down in the middle of nowhere and Buick was the closest GM service bay. I remember calling and telling the service mgr I was from Chevy service, he stated, "oh I'm sorry for you"..........was an intense rivalry, probably still is. It was so bad, that even their databases were different. I learned on the CBK lines, Chevy, Buick, Kadillac. I was sent over to work the Olds service line and I needed 3 days to learn their system before I could input data. By the way, that was all Ross Perot's database that he sold to GM before they threw he off the board and paying him millions to go.

[Bonanza7]

Originally Posted by tonyko1

As far as a complete independent division goes, probably a real long-shot. It would have to be sold at other GM divisions dealers, perhaps at a Chevy dealership. Then it would have to be serviced there as well.

I too sure miss the Pontiac brand, it was the "we build excitement" brand. However, as many things GM, it kind of got lost, instead of building excitement, it starting building the Aztec and Montana minivan.

GM could brand some Camaros a Firebird and service it at Chevy, heck that aint much of a stretch of what was happening in the heyday. GMC has been working hard at differentiating itself from Chevy trucks since 1999 when GMC became "professional grade". But they basically are still the same truck, built on the same line.

They don't have to be serviced at a Chevy dealer. The current ones don't. If they did, that would be a deal breaker for me. No Chevy dealer will touch a car of mine again.

[Bonanza7]

Originally Posted by RubyCamaro

I still see those little Solstice cars driving around or sitting in a lot somewhere & think those are sweet little cars. They could rebrand those as a Chevy (or even a Buick or Cadillac) like Dodge did with the Neon. And yeah, I know it would compete in a way with the Vette & Camaro but to me it is a totally different car appealing to a different consumer desire.

I had 3 Solstices. Fun cars, when you could keep them out of the shop. Horrible quality control and engineering.