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06-30-2010, 11:46 PM | #58 |
it better live up to the ls name plate i dont want anoter 80"s repeat
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You are right about energy content. Ethanol has about 2/3 as much energy per gallon than gasoline. An engine that gets 20 mpg on gas would get about 14 mpg on E85 if all other factors were the same.
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If you are all worried about torque i bet gm will throw in a gear option in there
a high winding engine that makes torque up higher in the rpm range is very fun its a step in the right directions if they do a 5.0 to compete with ford all the better as LONG as they make it lighter |
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I still don't understand why people think the new engine will produce less torque. Isn't it just going to be a slightly downsized version of the current engine, plus VVT and DI? I'd be willing to bet the torque curve on the new engine will be very similar to the LS3 (who knows, with the variable valve timing, low-end torque may actually improve), and that given the lighter chassis, the 6th gens will be relatively faster than the current car at any given RPM.
It is kind of funny that so many are coming out to say what is wrong with the 2015 Camaro 4 years before it is launched. The engineers at GM don't even know what will be "wrong with it" yet.
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sounds like a plan.. and its a good lookin number.. would be a kool badge haha. 5.5 NIIIIIIICE
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Sounds like the 6.4L motor and cosmetic changes are only going to make your Challenger heavier...which is too bad because its already a fat slob. But yes they do look good on the outside, but they need that inside less rent-a-charger like. Thankfully GM's design team tackles problems by lightening our car with a smaller 5.5 (or 5.7L) motor, yes upping the HP, lightens the new chassis, and will make an even better Camaro than what is already awesome. Can Dodge not up the HP without upping the displacement?
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I'd rather see a 7.0 LS7, a 6.2 LSA, or a 6.2 LS9
I would not want a 5.7 instead of a 6.2. Who would ?
I'd rather see a 7.0 LS7, a 6.2 LSA, or a 6.2 LS9. You can always get more out of a bigger engine. Scew smaller motors. I didn't buy my camaro for gas milage. I bought it for pleasure !
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I think so.
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The Challenger isnt going to be gaining any real weight, if any. Its going to have more HP and TQ than the other two (except the GT500) and will have a performance edge on the LS3 Camaro's. Done. |
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So, can you clarify, you're saying the 2011 R/T Challenger will have a performance edge on the 2010 LS3's?, because that would be the real apples to apples comparison right? Shouldn't the SRT-8 challenger be reserved for our top of the line camaro - the Z28? But if instead you are trying to say your top of the line 2011 challenger will be better than a 2010 camaro ss, well...it almost should shouldnt it? It would be sad if a 6.4 L 475hp blah blah blah challenger failed against a Camaro that debuted when the challenger was a 6.1L...
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07-01-2010, 12:45 PM | #70 |
I've read this in a magazine and I believe it myself and it said theres no replacement for displacement.
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