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Old 11-12-2009, 06:43 PM   #29
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Old 11-12-2009, 06:48 PM   #30
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You guys say what you want about Kia, but im happy for them and I am happy for the plant that hey just built down here in Georgia that just hired over 3800 people that were out of work and is reviving a small town that was in dire need. Go KIA!!! Ford and Gm closed plants in Ga Kia gave quite a few unemployed people work

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http://www.ajc.com/business/kia-s-we...nt-190309.html

wish someone would open the gm plant back up here in okc too.
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Old 11-12-2009, 08:02 PM   #31
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You guys say what you want about Kia, but im happy for them and I am happy for the plant that hey just built down here in Georgia that just hired over 3800 people that were out of work and is reviving a small town that was in dire need. Go KIA!!! Ford and Gm closed plants in Ga Kia gave quite a few unemployed people work

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They also locked in about $400 million in tax breaks and other economic incentives.
Funny. I thought the government wasn't supposed to do such things for automakers.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:59 PM   #32
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The American Car bias that is dominant here gets tiresome after awhile. Glad to see people looking at other cars that look great and run well too. I really like the new Kia.
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Old 11-12-2009, 10:22 PM   #33
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I had not heard about this car until I saw the commercial for it. It is a nice looking car and it is something worth considering, but definitely not something worth trading the Camaro for.
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:32 PM   #34
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The American Car bias that is dominant here gets tiresome after awhile. Glad to see people looking at other cars that look great and run well too. I really like the new Kia.
Owning an import should go back to being a luxury like it is in every other country in the world. You want to own a Harley in Brazil, Isreal or Italy it will cost you after tarrifs 30k or better.

The wife drives a BMW, but not before we bought 15 domestic cars before it. I even drove domestics when I knew they weren't all they could be. I like my neighbors employed as I firmly believe in a chicken in every pot.

I too feel for my relatives who live in West Point and Lanett to have to depend on a Kia plant to provide a job. Keeping jobs here and most of all buying things made here keeps us from having to rely on the likes of Kia et al.
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:37 AM   #35
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By no means was I ever entertaining the thought of trading my Camaro in for a Forte, but this thread (inspired by my wife) was just another way of viewing how a growing company learns from their competition that already leads by example. People still really care about what their cars look like and other manufacturers will take notice of important styling cues and figure out how to make it work with their resources and design a successful car. I guess the verdict is still out on the Forte but with the G6 disappearing, the HHR and Cobalt fading away, the compact sport class of vehicles is very much up for grabs. Sure, the car may look like a Honda Civic Si, but wouldn't it be incredible if Kia could pull off a Honda Civic better than Honda?! I think that would be the upset of the year if you ask me.

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Old 11-13-2009, 04:10 AM   #36
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I actually like the interior on it. Looks like a sporty daily driver that looks good with good gas mileage.
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:30 AM   #37
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Old 11-13-2009, 11:13 AM   #38
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I guess the verdict is still out on the Forte but with the G6 disappearing, the HHR and Cobalt fading away, the compact sport class of vehicles is very much up for grabs.
G6 is more mid-sized, and the HHR + Cobalt will both be replaced with nearly-identically-sized vehicles: Cruze and Orlando.



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Old 11-13-2009, 11:47 AM   #39
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Old 11-13-2009, 11:58 AM   #40
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:07 PM   #41
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I won't sidetrack here, I promise. The Kia really doesn't swim in the same waters as the Camaro so I'm not sure how that suggestion came up. If she was making a suggestion trying to save the family a bunch of money or something, I guess I can see that. Kia's are ok little cars- nothing particularly good or bad about them IMHO. I'd prefer the Camaro myself but I certainly wouldn't bust your balls if you felt you needed to switch.


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Owning an import should go back to being a luxury like it is in every other country in the world. You want to own a Harley in Brazil, Isreal or Italy it will cost you after tarrifs 30k or better.
As far as this goes, for 2 of those countries mentioned they can charge high tariffs because the only thing they export in any significant quantity is guns. The US could care less if the consumer has to pay a little more for their IMI or Taurus. If the US raises tariffs on import cars, then our trading partners respond and then it will be even harder to sell our exports. But it's usually not even quid pro quo on cars- instead if we raise tariffs on cars, then the foreign countries respond by raising tariffs on EVERYTHING from potatoes to cars to technology.
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