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Old 03-19-2015, 01:41 PM   #15
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A 327 V8 to replace the V6 would be cool, but I doubt it. A 396 would be cool too but highly unlikely.
Not to replace but as an upgrade. Make it an option for the V6 models. Could share MANY of the same components keeping costs in check. I'd envision it like the 4.3 V6 to 5.3 upgrade in the trucks.
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:53 PM   #16
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[QBhobbs;8305648]I doubt we see any other displacements than 6.2 liters. I would be surprised to see any new LTx engines at all.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say new LTx per say but look how the LSx platform changed a significant amount for three car CTS-V LSA ...ZL1 LSA vs the ZR1 LS9....or the old 346ci ls1 from 315-405hp ls6...I know its complete speculation. ..but V6..detuned V6 TT...and LT1
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Old 03-19-2015, 01:56 PM   #17
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[QUOTE/BryceClark89]I wouldn't say new LTx per say but look how the LSx platform changed a significant amount for three car CTS-V LSA ...ZL1 LSA vs the ZR1 LS9....or the old 346ci ls1 from 315-405hp ls6...I know its complete speculation. ..but V6..detuned V6 TT...and LT1[/QUOTE]


A detuned LF4 would still cost the same or more than the LT1....so no. Will the LT1 get a displacement change over its life time....possibly.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:35 PM   #18
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[QUOTE/BryceClark89]I wouldn't say new LTx per say but look how the LSx platform changed a significant amount for three car CTS-V LSA ...ZL1 LSA vs the ZR1 LS9....or the old 346ci ls1 from 315-405hp ls6...I know its complete speculation. ..but V6..detuned V6 TT...and LT1

A detuned LF4 would still cost the same or more than the LT1....so no. Will the LT1 get a displacement change over its life time....possibly.[/QUOTE]

More than likely your correct. ..I just don't see the need for the Current 2.0t in the camaro...the LT1 is so flexible in its applicatiom why use it..i doubt chevy has a need to follow fords actions that much ....thoughts?
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:39 PM   #19
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not sure I really care what the ATS-V weighs. Yes, it is Alpha architecture but so is the CTS-V, all three vehicles will be their own vehicle. Now, if 6amaro gains weight over 5th Gen, then maybe we should be disappointed.

Just my opinion on the matter.

P.S. I like my coined term for 6th Gen Camaro, 6amaro. brevity is nice, probably just me though.
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Old 03-19-2015, 02:57 PM   #20
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not sure I really care what the ATS-V weighs. Yes, it is Alpha architecture but so is the CTS-V, all three vehicles will be their own vehicle. Now, if 6amaro gains weight over 5th Gen, then maybe we should be disappointed.

Just my opinion on the matter.

P.S. I like my coined term for 6th Gen Camaro, 6amaro. brevity is nice, probably just me though.
I understand ..but for kicks and giggles the CTS is 3800-4150 ish and the ATS is 3450-3700ish.....if Zeta was a hefty flop for weight 3850-4200....I would pray that it'd loose 150-200lbs if an AWD 3.6 ATS. A6 is tested at 3600lbs-3700lbs I would hope that the wider and longer gen 6 won't be that heavy....if it weighs 3750ish lbs for instance that s only about 100 lbs ..meaning its weight loss didn't transfer from Zeta to Alfa ...in part a huge to a car platform that is supposedly 2-3 Hundred pounds lighter than the current....consumers=
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I understand ..but for kicks and giggles the CTS is 3800-4150 ish and the ATS is 3450-3700ish.....if Zeta was a hefty flop for weight 3850-4200....I would pray that it'd loose 150-200lbs if an AWD 3.6 ATS. A6 is tested at 3600lbs-3700lbs I would hope that the wider and longer gen 6 won't be that heavy....if it weighs 3750ish lbs for instance that s only about 100 lbs ..meaning its weight loss didn't transfer from Zeta to Alfa ...in part a huge to a car platform that is supposedly 2-3 Hundred pounds lighter than the current....consumers=
If a smaller 6amaro is not lighter than current Camaro, yes, big fail. One thing we have to remember is that anything gained in chassis weight loss, may be lost with a "better interior" IDK if a more luxurious interior necessarily means more weight, but maybe. Also, anything they have to put in with regards to safety systems may add weight too - many discussions on the weight topic here with posts by folks that know way more than I do on the matter.

Also, does the TT V6 weigh more than an LT1?
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More than likely your correct. ..I just don't see the need for the Current 2.0t in the camaro...the LT1 is so flexible in its applicatiom why use it..i doubt chevy has a need to follow fords actions that much ....thoughts?

The 2.0T's biggest reason is Euro market like it is for the Mustang. There are severe taxes on engine displacement there.
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:07 PM   #23
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Im sorry... but, why is weight an issue again? GM made it perfectly clear that the new Camaro WILL be lighter than the 5th Gen.
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It's going to be lighter.
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Old 03-19-2015, 03:17 PM   #25
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My 2015 Malibu LTZ tips the scales at a bit over 3600 lbs, and The 2016 is supposed to be 300 lbs lighter.

If GM can shave 300 lbs off the Malibu, they should be able to shave a few hundred off the Camaro.

I predict the 6th Gen will come in at right about 3700 lbs.
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Pardon my anxiety. .over weight. .but if your 350lbs and you lose only ten lbs...not really able to wave a flag look at me look at me I lost weight..but if your 350lbs and you lose 150 lbs then we can talk...remember how the new Mustang was "Supposed" to be lighter but actually gained weight ...not saying that will be the case for the gen 6 ...but for god sakes if GM wants to stick it ford...it need to be That 200 lbs lighter or that why its an issue...besides when exactly did 3600lbs become acceptable. ...
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3600lbs would be a Fantasy come TRUE! 3700 in all likelyhood. Any less is just icing!
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Pardon my anxiety. .over weight. .but if your 350lbs and you lose only ten lbs...not really able to wave a flag look at me look at me I lost weight..but if your 350lbs and you lose 150 lbs then we can talk...remember how the new Mustang was "Supposed" to be lighter but actually gained weight ...not saying that will be the case for the gen 6 ...but for god sakes if GM wants to stick it ford...it need to be That 200 lbs lighter or that why its an issue...besides when exactly did 3600lbs become acceptable. ...

It became acceptable when safety requirements dictated 16 airbags. And consumers decided that sports cars need power everything and touch screens and keyless entry and all of the things the expect in a s-class Mercedes. I don't know why people think they can have everything and lose weight. Every gadget adds weight and wiring and adds up.
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